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JetsAndHeels

06-20-2008, 05:53 PM

Here is some news concerning our Doomsday character and another cast addition for season 8.

Michael Ausiello reports that actors have been cast in the roles of Davis Bloome (aka Doomsday) and Tess for Season 8 of "Smallville".

My increasingly itchy moles report that Sam Witwer, best known to Battlestar Galactica fans as ex-Raptor ECO Alex "Crashdown" Quartararo, has been tapped to play the series regular role of Doomsday. Additionally, relative newcomer Cassidy Freeman is joining the cast as Tess, a sexy and vengeful firecracker with whom Lex hires to run his empire in his absence. Ironically, the actress' most recent credit was the failed CW pilot Austin Golden Hour - starring none other than Green Arrow himself, Justin Hartley (who's back on Smallville full time next season).

You'll recall that The CW released the following information on these two new roles...

Doomsday: Real name: Davis Bloome. He's in his mid-20s. He works as a bartender at the hip new Metropolis lounge Ace of Clubs. He plays down his smoldering good looks with a self-effacing wit and down-to-earth soulfulness. But he has long felt like an outsider (hence his nickname). And beneath his charismatic, easy-going demeanor lies a brooding sense of isolation and insecurity. When he begins to delve into the haunting mysteries of his true origins, a darker truth begins to emerge, one of blood and serial murders, one of survival and utter destruction - one in which he is forced to confront the true evil inside of him."

Tess: Drop-dead gorgeous.Roughly 28 years old.She's determined, sexy, vengeful and has super-strength. "While Lex is away, she is in control of his estate and rules it with aggression. She's had intellect and the confidence all her life, though it's obvious she's had some training from Lex as well. But as much as Lex has helped fortify her power, he is also her biggest weakness. She harbors an undying devotion to Lex, claiming he saved her life a few years ago. She carries out his wishes with coercion, force, seduction - anything to get what she wants. And no one can resist her beguiling ways. Even Clark Kent. She doesn't remember anything before the day she met Lex. Once she realizes her previous life is buried below the surface, she's desperate to dig it up."

Season 8 of "Smallville" is expected to premiere in September.

JetsAndHeels

06-21-2008, 04:22 PM

Here is some more info on our new characters, via the CW's official Smallville press release:

Rocked by the mysterious death of Lionel Luthor and the sudden disappearance of his son, Lex, the town of Smallville will be put further on edge this fall with the arrival of two new villains, as Sam Witwer ("Battlestar Galactica") and Cassidy Freeman ("Finishing the Game: The Search for a New Bruce Lee") join the cast of "Smallville" (Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW) as series regulars for the hit show's eighth season.

Witwer will play Davis Bloome,a charismatic Metropolis paramedic who - when he isn't saving people - is forced to confront a burgeoning darkness inside of him that just might be a harbinger of doom.

JetsandHeels: So he went from being a bartender to a paramedic? Interesting.

Freeman will play Tess Mercer. Handpicked by Lex Luthor to succeed him before he vanished, Tess arrives in Smallville as acting CEO of LuthorCorp. Beneath her mysterious allure lies a cunning ruthlessness to match her mentor's.

"We're thrilled that Sam and Cassidy will be joining the cast, and we have some very exciting things in store for them, their characters and 'Smallville' fans for this season," said executive producers Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer in a joint statement. "They are both incredibly talented performers, and we cannot wait to begin to work with them."

Best known for his role as Alex "Crashdown" Quartararo on the acclaimed series "Battlestar Galactica," Witwer is also featured in the forthcoming "Star Wars: The Force Unleashed" video game. His previous credits include "Stephen King's The Mist" (written and directed by Frank Darabont) and guest-starring roles on a number of series, including "Dexter," "Cold Case," "Enterprise," "Angel," "Dark Angel" and "ER," among many others.

Freeman previously appeared in the feature film "Finishing the Game: The Search for a New Bruce Lee," which debuted at the prestigious Sundance Film Festival in 2007. Her other television and motion picture credits include a guest-starring role on "Cold Case," the made-for-television movie "An Accidental Christmas," the independent film "Shades of Gray," and shorts "Clock" and "Razor Sharp," among others.

From Tollin/Robbins Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television, "Smallville" is executive produced by Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

JetsAndHeels

07-06-2008, 06:49 PM

I may be talking to myself here, but I found some info on the upcoming season, including "spoilers"....I will let Tycho start the new season thread, don't want to steal his thunder.

TVGuide.com has posted an article about the up-coming 8th season of "Smallville", with some interesting spoilers...

This season's theme is "double identities," [Kelly] Souders says. "It's about the Superman identity emerging as Clark Kent tries to maintain a normal life - or the appearance of a normal life." To that end, he takes a job at the "Daily Planet," right across the desk from Lois Lane (Erica Durance).

"The camaraderie as they work side-by-side that everyone loves from the DC Comics and all the Superman lore is going to come to fruition this year," Souders says. "The two of them are thrown together in some unfortunate situations for Clark. She becomes a little bit of an obstacle to him saving the world, when he's on a deadline."

Jedi_Master_Guyute

07-06-2008, 11:56 PM

Tycho

07-08-2008, 12:17 AM

Thanks for the props on the Season 8 thread. Think maybe it should start on the premier night?

Meanwhile, we're discussing The Daily Planet now, so...

Will Perry White be back? How does Clark get a job there with no college education? Refresh my memory? How did Lois? Because Gabriel liked her, right?

Are any of them still in school? Chloe maybe?

By the way, does starting the season 8 thread imply that I still like the show? Please don't go that far :D

I hope it will be good, but I guess we'll see.

OK:

Clark

Lex - save for some episodes. Perhaps he gets put away for the murder of his father? Appropriate. Does he ever replace Martha as Senator? So he could be President? How? With a prison record. Imagine Barack Obama being elected today with the pundits saying "He only killed his father..."

Lana -have to say it - it's about time. The Clark-Lana thing needs a final resolution, or an "at least until later." What will she do with her life?

Chloe - she's like Lois # 2. What will they do with her?

Jimmy - he's where he needs to be.

Lois - finally - but why won't she recognize Superman? Especially now that we know that she knows Clark so well?

Martha - will Mommy ever visit? When will she retire so someone's on the farm? Clark will send his paychecks home, remember?

Oliver - K. So he's in now. Does he know all of Clark's abilities? Origins? Weaknesses? What's the state of the Justice League? Is there a JL before there's a Superman?

Miss Lexy - the new girl. Do we need her? Where did she come from? If it were Helen Bryce or something, who'd been established a long time ago, it'd fit much better.

DoomsDay - but not DoomsDay - Do we need him? Why is he a common-boy instead of just the mutated tyrant that history established him as?

Brainiac would be perfect to be brought back with Lex off the show.

Kara - is Supergirl off the show already? I missed the finale so I have no idea what is up with her. She only marginally contributed in my estimation.

JetsAndHeels

07-09-2008, 06:07 PM

Tycho, its your thread so start it whenever you like. My advice would be start it soon though because the season 7 stuff is now old news.

If you don't want to start it, well someone can do it. :)

Tycho

07-10-2008, 02:03 AM

This thread was being requested, so here we go a little early.

Up, up, and away!

JetsAndHeels

07-10-2008, 05:39 PM

Good job, Tycho. TV Guide indicated that Season 8 will premiere on Thursday, September 18th. We have a couple of months for speculation and discussion before the actual episodes air.

And just to break in the new thread, a little bit of info:

Michael Ausiello, who moved from TV Guide to Entertainment Weekly, reveals some interesting spoilers regarding "Smallville" in his latest column...

Get ready for a Jimmy/Chloe/Doomsday triangle, although I have a feeling I know which suitor will ultimately win her heart: the one who doesn't turn out to be a serial killer! Just a hunch.

From everything I'm hearing, there will be a lot more comedy this season, courtesy of those new adventures Lois and Clark will be embarking on.

InsaneJediGirl

07-10-2008, 08:35 PM

I pray its not over the top comedy, sure its cheesy at times but lets keep that as low as possible :p

JetsAndHeels

07-11-2008, 10:11 PM

The CW apparently ran a message across the screen during this week's repeat "Smallville" episode stating that the Season 8 premiere would be Thursday, October 2nd. TV Guide's current issue stated that the premiere would be September 18th.

Spoilers ahead:

With the news already out that Chloe, Jimmy and Doomsday will make up a new love triangle in the show's 8th season, Ausiello reports that one of the two will propose to Chloe.

Will she accept the marriage proposal? It looks likely. It's been a while since the writers of the show have been able to include a wedding episode.

Tycho

07-11-2008, 10:15 PM

Wedding episodes? Groan. The most intense were Lex's with Lana and with Helen Bryce.

After that, you don't need to keep falling back on wedding episodes.

Jedi_Kal-El

07-12-2008, 12:12 AM

Thrilling. Chloe, Jimmy, and Doomtender. Can't wait. :rolleyes:

InsaneJediGirl

07-13-2008, 12:17 AM

Maybe, in a twist of fate, Doomsday will purpose to Jimmy and they will fly out to California to get married ? :p

JetsAndHeels

07-19-2008, 03:53 PM

Front cover artwork (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville7/season7-dvd.jpg) and back cover artwork (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville8/season7-back.jpg) for the season 7 dvd set.

DVD SPECIAL FEATURES:

Supergirl: The Last Daughter of Krypton Featurette - The definitive documentary covering the Supergirl character first popularized in the pages of DC Comics, and later manifested in a feature film, animation, and finally Smallville.

Jimmy on Jimmy Featurette - Aaron Ashmore (Smallville's Jimmy Olson) meets with Marc McClure (1980s Superman The Movie Jimmy Olson) who meets with Jack Larson (Jimmy from the 1950's The Adventures of Superman), and Sam Huntington (Superman Returns Jimmy) to create a fun "roundtable" of the Jimmys each chatting about their favorite subject of playing the role of Jimmy Olson!

Now that is a special feature I think I would definately enjoy.

Smallville Legends Mobisodes Gallery - Computer animated short films covering the back-story of Kara Zor-El (aka Supergirl)

Cast & Creator Commentaries - includes Executive Producers Alfred Gough & Miles Millar, and cast members John Glover & Justin Hartley. Comic Book

Unaired Scenes

Also there was a recent interview with Darren Swimmer, one of the new executive directors of the show. He discusses some of the news for season 8:

Q: Let's shift then to the new season Big Bad - Davis "Doomsday" Bloome played by Sam Witwer. He's such an important villain in the comics (Superman's killer) but was he an easy choice to bring into Smallville?

DS: Part of what excited the four of us to bring Doomsday into the show was the fact that he has no previously established Earthly alter ego in the comics. Davis Bloome will be very different from the Doomsday we've seen in the comics. Especially at first. We thought it would be interesting to see the human side of a character that had very little humanity in the comics. Sam Witwer is tremendously talented, and we're all really thrilled to begin working with him.

Q: How's he going to mess up Clark's life this year?

DS: Doomsday did kill Superman in the comics, so Clark better be on his toes.

Q: Tess Mercer, played by Cassidy Freeman, is also heading to Smallville as Lex's handpicked minion for LuthorCorp. It's great having female adversaries in the mix so what's she bringing to the creative pot for the writers?

DS: The fact that we can play romantic tension between our main villain and several of the other characters gives us a different deck of cards to play with. She'll be interested in Clark, but for entirely different reasons than Lex was. Cassidy Freeman really brings the role to life, so it's been exciting to write for her.

JediTricks

07-20-2008, 03:40 AM

I am rolling my eyes at all those answers. --> :rolleyes: -- ^

JetsAndHeels

07-21-2008, 06:59 PM

I am rolling my eyes at all those answers. --> :rolleyes: -- ^

Don't kill the messenger.

El Chuxter

07-21-2008, 07:47 PM

Part of what excited the four of us to bring Doomsday into the show was the fact that he has no previously established Earthly alter ego in the comics. Davis Bloome will be very different from the Doomsday we've seen in the comics. Especially at first. We thought it would be interesting to see the human side of a character that had very little humanity in the comics.
Uh, there is a reason for that. He's a mutated alien killing machine with no human alter ego and therefore no humanity. Duh.

Jedi_Kal-El

07-21-2008, 08:42 PM

Uh, there is a reason for that. He's a mutated alien killing machine with no human alter ego and therefore no humanity. Duh.

I'm guessing they either missed that part, or just don't care, Chux. I'm going for the latter.

JetsAndHeels

07-24-2008, 07:52 PM

Some more info on season 8, plus a few minor spoilers:

Entertainment Weekly's "Ask Ausiello" column reveals plenty of "Smallville" spoilers this week.

Any scoop on when Kristin Kreuk will be returning to Smallville?

Ausiello: Would you believe sweeps? Shocking, I know. According to exec producer Brian Wayne Peterson, who I cornered at The CW's press tour party last week, Kreuk's five-episode stint as Lana will kick off in early November. "She'll come back at a very inopportune time for Clark," he hints. In the meantime, while Ms. Lang's off "giving Clark some space," the man who would be Super will be growing closer to Lois. "They'll be working together this year at Daily Planet," Peterson says, "and some friction is going to come out of that." Not to mention several winks to classic Superman lore - beginning in the season premiere. Teases Peterson: "There might be a phone booth moment between the two of them."

JetsAndHeels: Looks like another love triangle in season 8. Yay.

Now that Al Gough and Miles Millar are gone from Smallville, will the new show-runners amend their "No flights, no tights" policy?

Ausiello: Um… hell, yeah! "We are respecting everything that Al and Miles have set up," offers Peterson, choosing his words carefully. "All I'll say is we can definitely guarantee that there are no tights."

JetsAndHeels: Hey, he didn't say anything about flights!!

Any other scoop about Smallville?

Ausiello: Obviously, I wasn't going to cut Peterson lose without asking him about Smallville's most celebrated non-couple, Clark and Chloe. "We definitely touch on [her feelings for him]," he says. Adds fellow EP Todd Slavkin: "They've been best friends for a long time, and Clark would never get in the way of her pursuing her happiness. But oftentimes, feelings have a way of creeping in. That's all we'll say." Um, you've said more than enough, my friend. More than enough!

JetsAndHeels

07-28-2008, 04:27 PM

Looks like we get more characters to appear in season 8.....I hope they make it good, because "Justice" in season 6 was one of my favorites.

I bolded some of the key parts for any of you who don't feel like reading the whole thing.

Oh, and I found this on newsarama:

The Legion of Super-Heroes is coming to Smallville, and the writer who's guiding the futuristic team in comic books will be the one introducing them to the show.

Geoff Johns, writer of next month's Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds mini-series for DC Comics, will also be writing the Legion's introduction to the Smallville television show. As announced Sunday at San Diego Comic-Con, Johns will be writing "Legion," the ninth episode in this year's season 8 of Smallville.

"I've known the Smallville writing team – Todd [Slavkin], Darren [Swimmer], Brian [Wayne Peterson] and Kelly [Souders] – for a long time," Johns told Newsarama. "I had an idea for an episode, so we all had lunch. And I pitched them the idea of bringing the Legion of Super-Heroes to Smallville. And we're off and running."

In comics, the Legion of Super-Heroes is a group of super-powered teenagers from 1,000 years in the future who are inspired by the legend of Superman. The Legion story, which saw the young heroes time-traveling back to visit a young Clark Kent, recently inspired a Warner Bros. animated TV series.

Smallville fans had already seen updated versions of several DC Comics heroes on the live-action show, including Green Arrow, who's become a regular character. Just last month, it was announced that a new "Doomsday" character, played by Battlestar Galactica alum Sam Witwer, will be added to the Smallville cast this season as a nemesis for actor Tom Welling's Clark Kent.

While the show's very human-looking Doomsday is apparently a re-interpretation of the monstrous comics character who once killed Superman, according to Johns, the Legion that appears in his Smallville episode will be the team that comic book readers recognize.

"I can't get into any specifics about the story we're telling because we’re still working on it all. But they're from the 31st Century. And it will be focusing on some obvious characters who first met Clark," Johns said. "It will be written to fit with Smallville, and I think it's going to be a really fun challenge to approach the Legion in a different way. But with me, you know you're going to see Legion rings, and they're going to be as true to the core as possible. It's going to be the Legion of Super-Heroes."

Johns, who just recently used Legion characters in a story he wrote for the Superman-centered series Action Comics with artist Gary Frank, couldn't confirm if the Legion characters he's introducing in Smallville would appear in more than one episode.

As Smallville fans may remember, this won't be the first time the name "Geoff Johns" is attached to the show. In Season 4, a super-powered, villainous football-playing character was named Geoff Johns. And as most comic book fans know, Johns shares offices with former Smallville writer and comic book creator Jeph Loeb, who was involved with the series during Seasons 2-4.

"Like I said, I've known the Smallville team for a long time. And I have to thank Jeph Loeb for introducing me to those people in the first place," Johns said. "I'm really looking forward to working on the show. It's exciting to see the Legion be part of that."

JediTricks

08-01-2008, 04:00 PM

The Legion is almost too late to do, but at least they're going to do it while they can. I dunno, I wish I had made it to the panel, but in a way I don't mind. Hopefully this season won't fail the series.

Good riddance to Kara Zor-el!

Droid

08-01-2008, 05:02 PM

If they aren't going to use her, KILL HER. Clark should be the only living Kryptonian (other than the odd super villain).

Jedi_Kal-El

08-02-2008, 02:41 AM

While I didn't hate Kara, I really didn't care for how she was portrayed on the show. She was always missing, or had amnesia, or was missing with amnesia, so she's better left in the Phantom Zone.

JediTricks

08-03-2008, 05:00 AM

You guys are both right, that's the bottom line, they didn't use her properly and she became an anchor.

JetsAndHeels

08-29-2008, 07:37 PM

Perhaps I was wrong about the Season 8 premiere being delayed until October. According to the Superman homepage, it is in September.

Having said that, here is our 1st official episode description for season 8!!

The premiere episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, September 18th at 8.00pm. Titled "Odyssey", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

"The Justice League, led by the Green Arrow (Justin Hartley), hits the Artic in search of Clark (Tom Welling), who disappeared after the fortress collapsed. The team immediately has a confrontation with the new CEO of Luthorcorp, Tess Mercer (Cassidy Freeman). Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) is being held prisoner by a suspicious group who has discovered she has a new power, and Clark has been stripped of his powers by Jor-El."

Kevin Fair directed the episode, with the story by Brian Peterson and Kelly Souders and teleplay by Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer.

Pics can be viewed here (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=5361#comments).

Droid

08-29-2008, 08:59 PM

Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) is being held prisoner by a suspicious group who has discovered she has a new power, and Clark has been stripped of his powers by Jor-El."

1. So rather than controlling Clark, Lex just disappears.
2. So rather than being controlled Clark loses his powers.
3. Wow, Jor-El takes Clark's powers. We've never seen that before. How
original an idea. Wonder if they can make it last for more than two
episodes.

JediTricks

08-30-2008, 04:36 PM

Tess Mercer? For some reason, to me that read "Miss Teschmacher", I wonder if that's intentional.

Jedi_Kal-El

09-01-2008, 01:34 AM

Tess Mercer? For some reason, to me that read "Miss Teschmacher", I wonder if that's intentional.

They claim it's an intentional mix between Mercy Graves and Miss Teschmacher.

JediTricks

09-02-2008, 10:47 PM

They claim it's an intentional mix between Mercy Graves and Miss Teschmacher.
Yes, that makes perfect sense. Now if you'll go excuse me, I'm going to try to fit my head in the garbage disposal. :eek: Could they be LESS similar as characters go?!? Lazy and stupid writers trying to blend 2 different characters just because they each hung out with Lex Luthor in spin-off material!!!

JetsAndHeels

09-09-2008, 09:20 PM

The second episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, September 25th at 8.00pm. Titled "Plastique", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

DC COMICS CHARACTER PLASTIQUE BLASTS INTO METROPOLIS; DAVIS BLOOME ARRIVES IN SMALLVILLE - It's Clark's (Tom Welling) first day at the Daily Planet with Lois (Erica Durance), and the pair are immediately thrown together on a story when a bus explodes outside the office. Clark rescues Bette (guest star Jessica Parker Kennedy), a young girl who bonds with Chloe (Allison Mack) over their shared meteor abilities, but Bette is hiding a big secret. Paramedic Davis Bloome (Sam Witwer) arrives in Metropolis and is drawn to Chloe.

Rick Rosenthal directed the episode. Written by Holly Henderson & Don Whitehead.

Tycho

09-10-2008, 02:44 AM

I bought Season 7 at Target tonight. It's "on sale" for $39 (I think it's regularly going to be around $43-45. But they give you a $5 gift card with the purchase - good for anything on your next visit to Target.

That's actually USEFUL, so the DVD set is more like $34 with that giftcard considered.

Not the $20 bargain I got Season 6 for (thanks to JetsAndHeels' message) - and ALL Smallville Seasons 1-6 are still on sale for $18 each if you hurry to Target.

But I think we're agreed that the price gets better, though the show's quality does not.

However, I'm re-watching Season 5 onward now, and I like it thus far. But I was a big fan of James Marsters' Brainiac aka Professor Milton Fine being on the show. I don't know how it's all going to hold up in my opinion as soon as Lex Luthor becomes "a vessel" for Zod. That Jor-El can possess Lionnel Luthor annoyed me, too.

I suppose this stuff is possible with strange alien technology that not even Kal-El understands, but I don't like those insertions of the most improbable types of fiction with NO EXPLANATION whatsoever.

It's a far enough stretch that a single crystal can contain some kind of program to build the Fortress of Solitude, or that Clark regards that crystal's "AI" as actually being Jor-El (who's dead). If Jor-El could manage all that he has with the ship, the stones, the Fortress, then he should have been able to escape death, too. It's hard to accept that he'd just choose to die to honor his word to the stupid Kryptonian Council.

I really need to read Kevin J. Anderson's book or get some other handle on what happened on Krypton before Jor-El's death. This is the single most interesting aspect of Superman lore to me.

Tycho

09-11-2008, 06:12 AM

So Smallville Season 8 officially starts one week from today?

JediTricks

09-11-2008, 10:01 PM

Ugh, Plastique? Way to dig deep on the nobodies list there guys.

JetsAndHeels

09-12-2008, 09:01 PM

I bought Season 7 at Target tonight. It's "on sale" for $39 (I think it's regularly going to be around $43-45.

Actually the retail price on it (at BEST BUY) was over $70.

I find this to be an outrage. There is no way in hell I am paying that much coin for less episodes. The writers' strike cheats us out of more episodes, and then when the season set is released WE have to pay more!! F THAT BS!!

Tycho

09-13-2008, 06:17 PM

Well, then I guess I got a good price.

I'm watching all of my Smallville collection from Season 5 through Season 7 (just bought 6 & 7). So far, I'm still on the end of 5. It's pretty good still. Not as bad as I worried it might be. But I think the show went downhill gradually, if I recall.

One thing for sure is that if you watch how a SEASON plays out, with all the subplots in the shows connected (like "the ship" and Milton Fine) then it plays much better than when re-run hiatuses interrupt the regular live season flow of things, and you forget what happened on the last episode before the winter or spring breaks.

No: this show is not The Shield or Deep Space Nine - something where the writers are incredibly foreward thinking. But it can get better watched as a season straight through. We'll see if that holds true for Seasons 5 and 6 as well though.

JetsAndHeels

09-18-2008, 10:54 AM

Don't forget!! Season premiere is tonight at 8pm.

You can check out a preview online at cwtv.com

JediTricks

09-18-2008, 05:43 PM

The TV listings had the short synopsis, like 3 sentences, and one of the phrases was a true eye-roller:

"Jor-El strips Clark of his powers"

Gee f'ing whiz, that's never happened a thousand times now! Man, if that's the best they can do on this series, they should have ended it last year. So sick of that "plot twist", dumbest thing ever.

Tycho

09-19-2008, 05:22 AM

It was a great episode! Nice to see the Justice League in action, and the return of Martian Manhunter.

And Clark has arrived at the Daily Planet. I would have liked to see his mom guest star when he made that decision though.

So they added Ollie to the permanent cast. I guess I knew that, but forgot.

Anyway, I missed it live but just watched it here:

Smallville episode 1 (season 8) (http://tvshack.net/tv_shows/Smallville/season_8/episode_1/)

Pretty good show.

sith_killer_99

09-21-2008, 12:12 PM

WOW, I need to move to Metropolis. It seems that anyone who fills out a "job application" can become a reporter at the Daily Planet.:rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the show and like the series, for the most part. I just find it odd how they take huge steps to get from one point to another.:yes:

For me this show is more about action and cool FX as opposed to storyline and character development.

With that said, this was a fun episode, Green Arrow takes down Superman. Chloe fails to heal Clark. The whole Chloe/Brainiac thing is pretty cool too. Lots of interesting stuff going on, as always.

JediTricks

09-22-2008, 12:11 AM

That was a horrible episode.

Clark with the Russian mob that won't let him go - yeah, that made perfect sense. Oh, but he wandered without powers through the Arctic without dying to get there, right. And then they miraculously find him in 15 minutes. Then he gets his powers back not through the standard ripoff gimmick, but the stupidest one of all, the sun, which didn't give him back his powers any of the other times (oh, but apparently that's just because we never flew his human body into it before... riiiight).

Chloe's power? Gone. But now she has an even stupider power that just materialized out of nowhere. And the DDS taking her being a fake? Lame. But at least her ability made it possible to transform anonymous cellphone numbers into tracking devices. The Brainiac connection doesn't really work here either, this feels very last-minute thrown in.

Justice League looking for Clark, can't afford all the actors so 2 are sent to the Southern hemisphere. Do they call them back when they find Clark? No. But they break into the world's most badarse facility and it's a ghost town, a handful of guards at most.

Serum makes people do what they want, they know it wears off fast, so they give some to Green Arrow and give him an epic mission, which he then proceeds to attempt to fulfill in the stupidest, quickest manner possible... and then it wears right off afterwards.

Manhunter flying into a big fireball, that's rather unlikely, and then how exactly does he lose his powers? Then again, why didn't he save Clark before the fortress collapsed instead of waiting for him to get shot through the chest?

Tess Mercer... nothing good was done here, especially that last scene - wow, look, the thing Lex didn't see for 20 years she sees in 1 day. The actress feels doesn't seem to have any acting depth so she just spews "nasty!" everywhere, pushing too hard.

Lois, while they got her hair closer to the character's, was more ridiculous than ever before. Every new thing they had her do was sillier and more unbelievable than the last. But at least now Clark has a new job opposite her despite no experience and now no education to back it up.

And how pathetic is it that Clark dying brings up tons of footage of Lana and everybody else takes a back seat.

BTW, didn't notice before, but Doomsday is being played by the Secret Apprentice from SW: The Force Unleashed.

Tycho

09-22-2008, 12:41 PM

Lois has no educational credits either. She was Chief of Staff to a Kansas State Senator though. But in the newspaper business, if she can sell stories...

A long time ago, I was published in the Daily Herald - a smalltown paper in Illinois. I wrote an article with interviews of guys heading off to fight in the first Persian Gulf War. I had just graduated high school early, and I knew a lot of the guys who were finished with grammar school and enlisting right afterwards - to go fight Saddam (the first time).

Now I have 2 college degrees - but that doesn't always matter. If you can sell a story... (editors fix bad grammar btw - but that wasn't usually an issue with me because my mom was a college English teacher and I had received a CONSTANT eduction from her).

Meanwhile, Perry White owes Clark a favor because he saved White in an earlier episode. I haven't seen White at the Daily Planet for a long time (if ever - I forgot). When Clark saved him, he wasn't working for the paper, but a tabloid television show that was looking for Wall-of-Wierd stuff - but not by name. In any case, a guest appearance by Perry White giving Clark his job would explain things. In the world out there, it's often WHO-YOU-KNOW.

Honestly, could any of us get a Chief of Staff job with a public official? I mean I actually have some experience in that area, having been on staff before (but not directing it) - and I doubt that I could land that type of job. (In San Diego City Council, the Chief of Staff makes at least $100 K a year, and some make much higher. Now if it were the case that someone in a position like that owed me a great favor, I would see that as being "my IN."

Clark would have to write his way into a Daily Planet reporter job. We've never seen him write anything that I can recall. So Perry White would have to make this play happen. The guy who played him was Annette O'Toole's husband. (the actress who plaid Martha Kent all those years). It's not like it would be hard to reach him. But like JT was saying, maybe they couldn't afford him for this show and stay within budget. But in any upcoming episode, they could get him to guest star and explain Clark's job in retrospect. Michael McKeon is the actor, I think. He did a big guest star appearance on Star Trek: Voyager. I'd have to go look up the episode to get his name right. But it's something like that.

Droid

09-22-2008, 04:43 PM

Michael McKeon is the actor, I think. He did a big guest star appearance on Star Trek: Voyager. I'd have to go look up the episode to get his name right. But it's something like that.

He played Lenny (of Lenny and Squiggy) on Laverne and Shirley.

He was Mr. Green in the movie Clue.

He has been in a lot of the Christopher Guest movies like Best in Show and A Mighty Wind.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

09-23-2008, 12:28 PM

I really liked this episode. It had some nice action and movement towards the bigger picture of Clark in Metropolis. The Chloe subplot was pretty interesting and thanks for reminding me about the connection to Brainiac and how this could effect her. I don't know what to make of the new CEO of Luthorcorp, but i'm curious to see what she does this season.

Should be pretty interesting! :thumbsup:

JetsAndHeels

09-23-2008, 06:35 PM

I don't know what to make of the new CEO of Luthorcorp, but i'm curious to see what she does this season.

I hope she gets naked.

Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?

JetsAndHeels

10-01-2008, 08:55 PM

The 3rd episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Toxic", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

OLIVER FLASHES BACK TO HIS DAYS ON THE ISLAND AND LEARNS MORE ABOUT HIS PARENTS' DEMISE - Oliver (Justin Hartley) collapses at a charity event and reveals he only has 24 hours to live. Clark (Tom Welling) and Chloe (Allison Mack) call Davis (Sam Witwer) for help but his prognosis is grim. Delirious, Oliver flashes back to when he was stranded on an island and first learned how to use a bow and arrow. He also recalls meeting Tess (Cassidy Freeman) for the first time on that island after she had been kidnapped by a drug runner. Meanwhile, Chloe decides to use her new powers to help save Oliver, shocking Clark.

Mairzee Almas directed the episode written by Caroline Dries.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-01-2008, 10:58 PM

Droid

10-02-2008, 10:27 AM

I just don't care enough about Smallville anymore to even type what I thought of it. I forgot it was on last week and had to watch it on the web.

There is no story about Robin before he met Bruce Wayne. Give me a break.

Tycho

10-03-2008, 04:21 AM

I thought the show was good tonight. I wonder if Tess Mercer's encounter with Oliver on the island was set up? It's the conspiracy theorist in me. This time though - probably not.

Somehow you want Mercer to be redeemable though - like her and Ollie could fall back in love. That could be a good story device as Lois reconsiders having broken up with Ollie herself.

Then there's this whole thing with Chloe, Jimmy, and Doomsday.

I guess Doomsday's not a bartender. Having him be a paramedic is working for me. But he's an awfully commanding paramedic. Why is he acting as if he's the senior doctor on duty at the emergency center? A paramedic wouldn't be giving duty nurses their marching orders.

Anyway, I'm really curious about how Smallville is going to handle his story.

As to Clark? Yeah - I guess he's still on this show for one reason or another ;)

But I like all the other characters' storylines myself.

JediTricks

10-08-2008, 03:27 AM

Why is it that this show is already feeling like "Lois & Clark without the talent or chemistry or vision, plus some other people who are doing other stuff occasionally"?

Of course Arrow knows Tess and had a relationship with her, that makes perfect sense... riiiight. :rolleyes: And what should have been the best part, Oliver becoming the man he is, was the worst friggin' montage EVER!

JetsAndHeels

10-09-2008, 11:31 AM

The 4th episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Instinct", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

DC COMICS CHARACTER MAXIMA SETS HER SIGHTS ON CLARK - Tess (Cassidy Freeman) and her team perform tests on Clark's (Tom Welling) crystal that she had retrieved from the arctic, causing it to send a beam of light into the universe. This triggers the arrival of Maxima (guest star Charlotte Sullivan), a queen from the planet Almerac, who is searching for her soulmate, who she believes sent the signal. Unfortunately, Maxima's power is too great for mortal men and her kiss kills them. The seductive Maxima arrives in Metropolis and begins her search, starting with Jimmy (Aaron Ashmore). Allison Mack and Erica Durance also star.
James Conway directed the episode written by Turi Meyer and Al Septien.

Tycho

10-10-2008, 12:57 AM

Clark is such an idiot!

Never once did he say, "Hey Maxima. I have a destiny that has me really having to stay and kick it here on earth. So why don't you just hang around with me for a while and I'll give you a guided tour of my barn?"

Problem solved. Then he can have a long distance relationship with her. I mean what? Don't Kryptonians with all their technology have instant messenger?

It would seem Maxima could pop in any time she was getting in that kind of mood, and Clark was more than motivated to be there for her. And then maybe at convenient times down the road, he could pop over to her planet and give a speech or two as king of whatever.

But you don't just turn down a girl like that who wants to jump all over you the first time she sees you!

Nevertheless, the little tease of improved chemistry between Lois and Clark was alright. But why does every girl who's "right for Clark" have to come give him their shoulder up in the attic of his barn? Lois walked right in Lana's footsteps. That wasn't very original.

pbarnard

10-10-2008, 02:54 PM

Droid

10-12-2008, 02:34 PM

Would Maxima really want Kryptonians if they weren't on Earth? Would Clark have his powers in her galaxy?

JediTricks

10-16-2008, 02:10 AM

The barn is the metaphoric Fortress of Solitude. It's about the only depth that these so called writers seem to have. I've been wondering, why not call the series Metropolis: while we commute in from Smallville".
Ha! Totally, you see Chloe and Jimmy living at the Talon and working in the city which is supposed to be 3 hours away, EVERY SINGLE EPISODE now!

I thought Maxima was really sexy, but a little wimpy compared to what she was doing. Either she's more sultry and takes a smarter approach, or she's more aggressive and doesn't wait for anything to happen. Of course, she's supposed to be more regal, but that wouldn't fit the show. Very attractive, though someone should smack the cinematographer on this episode, lighting or camera was making this pale girl look like blue milk sometimes.

Maxima was a bit changed from the comics, this power I think came out of nowhere. Clark's opposition to her is philosophical, she is looking for a mate to "take", and while he might not mind a little action, ultimately it differs from his more wholesome take on love.

Ultimately, this was a dumb episode and nobody really did anything, Maxima's understanding of Clark's world was a weird mix of knowing and ignorant, but at least it was a simple tale so it held its own.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-22-2008, 12:04 AM

JetsAndHeels

10-23-2008, 12:07 PM

as much as i'll get guff for it, i gotta say for some reason, I enjoyed last weeks episode with the psycho wedding guy. I like twisted characters like that and I enjoyed what he did with Chloe, Jimmy, etc, etc. I knew it was the jeweler once we met him too, but no worries.

I will also say that I enjoyed the relationship between Clark and Lois in this episode; the banter was great and their awkwardness at the end was fun to watch. I laughed pretty hard at Clark's "Statistically....." comment in the elevator.

God help me. :whip:

I liked the episode too, JMG. I thought it was well done.

Here is the description for tonight's new episode:

The 6th episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, October 23rd, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Prey", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

DAVIS STARTS TO SEE HIS DARK SIDE - Clark (Tom Welling) looks into a recent attack in a theater that may be the work of a serial killer. Suspecting it could be someone who is meteor-infected, he demands that Chloe (Allison Mack) release the names of the people she is counseling at the Isis Foundation, which causes a rift between the friends. Davis (Sam Witwer) fears that his blackouts could mean that he is the serial killer and collects evidence that may implicate him. Fearing the worst, he confesses his suspicions to Chloe. Erica Durance, Aaron Ashmore and Cassidy Freeman also stars.
Michael Rohl directed the episode written by Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders.

Tycho

10-25-2008, 06:59 PM

This week's was a good episode. I liked the darkness of it.

Handcuffs on that kid who seemed to turn into a non-corporeal whisp of dark smoke and green eyes seemed kind of ridiculous. He should have been easily capable of escaping that.

It's hard to follow the momentum of any broadcast season. I'm watching the show on DVD now and it seems to make much more sense as an epic production than as something interrupted by re-runs and sports and election programs.

JetsAndHeels

10-26-2008, 05:28 PM

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-26-2008, 05:31 PM

Something that I liked from this week's episode:

Clark seems to finally be embracing his destiny. I like the idea that he is listening out for trouble and then using his abilities to help others. Hopefully that will be something that does not stop.

Definitely agree that I loved that part of the episode. It's great to see some more action and mystery this season. I'm still wondering when we will see Davis in his "creature" form and I did like how Jimmy mentioned that the creature had "boney eyebrows." That made me chuckle. Glad to see MM back too.

Overall, I also enjoyed this weeks episode.

and was I seeing things or did I see BLUE TIGHTS AND A RED CAPE during next weeks preview?!? Of course it won't be what we think it is, but it still made me go "huH!?!?" and I had to rewind it and see it again. :thumbsup:

JetsAndHeels

10-26-2008, 05:38 PM

and was I seeing things or did I see BLUE TIGHTS AND A RED CAPE during next weeks preview?!? Of course it won't be what we think it is, but it still made me go "huH!?!?" and I had to rewind it and see it again. :thumbsup:

Yeah, you saw it. I am having flashbacks to the Lois And Clark episode where Lois turns into Ultra Woman. :)

Tycho

10-26-2008, 08:34 PM

Heh. If I had Clark's powers, I might be so apathetic, I'd just let a lot of folks die. You can't help everyone. But I'm sure I'd want to try.

However, with that super-breath, I'm sure I'd use it to blow a lot of ladies' skirts up. But then, I'd also have x-ray vision! The ultimate skill for a peeping-Clark.

Man, I'd be trouble with super-powers! :crazed:

JetsAndHeels

10-26-2008, 08:35 PM

Droid

10-28-2008, 03:27 PM

JediTricks

10-28-2008, 10:35 PM

Did anyone notice that when Clark ran away from Chloe to confront Davis he had a blue shirt and no jacket and then when he arrived on the scene to fight the ghoul he had on his red jacket? Did he stop and pick up his coat in case he got chilly?
I did notice that, I guess at super-speed you have plenty of time to grab your coat, maybe a nosh, read the paper, hit the bathroom, and check email. :p

I'm shocked nobody's talking about the fact that Clark lept a tall building in a single bound! That was awesome!

JetsAndHeels

10-28-2008, 10:51 PM

I'm shocked nobody's talking about the fact that Clark lept a tall building in a single bound! That was awesome!

You are right, it was awesome. So glad they put that in the episode.

I must say that I am enjoying most of these new episodes in season 8. I just hope that the show keeps the element of Clark helping the citizens of Metropolis. That is such a huge part of the development of his character.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-28-2008, 10:56 PM

I did notice that, I guess at super-speed you have plenty of time to grab your coat, maybe a nosh, read the paper, hit the bathroom, and check email. :p

I'm shocked nobody's talking about the fact that Clark lept a tall building in a single bound! That was awesome!

I totally forgot to mention that; that was awesome!!!!

You are right, it was awesome. So glad they put that in the episode.

I must say that I am enjoying most of these new episodes in season 8. I just hope that the show keeps the element of Clark helping the citizens of Metropolis. That is such a huge part of the development of his character.

I agree; it's really adding some much needed excitement and fun into the show.

and hey, J&H, any leaked pics of Doomsday showing up anywhere, eh eh eh?!!???? :thumbsup:

JetsAndHeels

10-28-2008, 11:32 PM

and hey, J&H, any leaked pics of Doomsday showing up anywhere, eh eh eh?!!???? :thumbsup:

I haven't seen any leaked pics so far. Believe me, I have been looking!!

I will say that episode 10, entitled "Bride", looks to be something. It is the episode where Lana returns, and there is alot going on. From everything I have read, I can just say it's a "bloody mess".

And I guess now is as good a time as ever to list this week's episode description:

The 7th episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, October 30th, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Identity", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

"Jimmy (Aaron Ashmore) snaps a picture of Clark (Tom Welling) super-speeding to save Lois (Erica Durance) from a mugger and manages to catch a red and blue blur on film. Jimmy shows it to Tess (Cassidy Freeman) who decides to run it on the front page of the Daily Planet. Clark fears his identity will be discovered so he asks Chloe (Allison Mack) to run interference with Jimmy, but she refuses."
The episode is written by Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer and directed Mairzee Almas.

Tycho

10-29-2008, 12:05 AM

I've been watching Season 7 on DVD now and noticed something that ticked me off.

In Season SEVEN they reveal what Lana's pregnancy being faked was all about:

1) Lex uses it to get Lana to marry him - true

but

2) Lex probably used that genetic material to clone Lana - the same clone that she put in the SUV that blew up.

Now why was he cloning her? Was he going to kill the real Lana and replace her with his programmed Stepford clone of her?

Was she a prototype to help him clone the soldier who'd be the template for his clone army? (Was Jango Fett unavailable or something?)

The plot was not satisfactorily resolved unless I'm missing something AND the rest of the plot is pretty unoriginal since I saw Episode 2 of Star Wars.

Droid

10-30-2008, 11:04 AM

The whole clone thing was some mighty lazy writing. It ranks right up there with "it was all a dream".

I like the Clark becoming Superman element too. But the show is just so bad and has been so bad for so long I have a hard time caring anymore.

Tycho

10-30-2008, 12:34 PM

I'm reading Kevin J. Anderson's "Last Days of Krypton."

1) Krypton was not always an ice planet, but tropical, actually.

Whoa! That goes against everything I'd ever seen or learned. I guess something will happen to turn the planet icey before it explodes? But in time for every Superman nemesis from another world to know about it since they refer to Krypton as a "ball of ice." OK - it's possible I guess.

2) Zod bets on Non in the Kryptonian equivalent of podracing. Non rides a chariot pulled by giant iguanas - and his are black and lethally bite the other racers' green lizards of course. Non's Kryptonian name was Nam. Ursa's first noticed by Zod in the audience there and it's love at first sight. She is named Aether or something like that. My guess is that they change their names, sort of like other bad guys call themselves Darth.

If everything is starting to sound un-original, please let me continue to the planet destroying super-weapons. I wish I were kidding, but I'm not. However, it is justifiable since Krypton did explode.

Anyway, I am still reading, but I thought I'd mention what I knew (and maybe wish I didn't know).

Tycho

10-31-2008, 01:21 AM

Don't forget to respond to my other post about Krypton up above.

But does this mean Chloe will kill to protect Clark's secret? She'll definitely assault someone. That's for sure. We don't know that the stalker dude died.

Good episode with some character growth for both Oliver and Clark.

Lois looked hot.

And it looks like Kara (Supergirl) returns next week when Lois and Clark are trapped in The Phantom Zone.

pbarnard

10-31-2008, 08:39 AM

Your first posting, I'd just say its KJA, so if anyone can ruin/change/lose the meaning of a mythos, he can.

I think the Chloe thing is a toss up. Is it her protecting Clark, or is it Brainiac or is it Brainiac manipulating/lowering her inhibitions ala alcohol (something she would like to do, but normally wouldn't).

JetsAndHeels

10-31-2008, 10:41 AM

And it looks like Kara (Supergirl) returns next week when Lois and Clark are trapped in The Phantom Zone.

No $h*t!! Stop the presses!! :)

JetsAndHeels

11-06-2008, 05:24 PM

Better late than never....

The 8th episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Bloodline", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

KARA RETURNS - Clark (Tom Welling) receives an anonymous package containing the crystal that Tess (Cassidy Freeman) found in the Arctic. When he removes the crystal, it activates and sends him and a visiting Lois (Erica Durance) to the Phantom Zone where they run into Kara (guest star Laura Vandervoort). Kara opens a portal for Lois to return but Zod's wife Faora escapes with her and takes over Lois' body. A possessed Lois goes on a rampage in Metropolis. Allison Mack, Aaron Ashmore and Justin Hartley also star. Michael Rohl directed the episode written by Caroline Dries.

JediTricks

11-06-2008, 11:56 PM

Ok, when Tess showed up just after Chloe in the farmhouse, that was too much, too stupid. This character is so struggling still, and now she's just popping up out of nowhere to annoy with no good reason.

I have to admit, Erica Durance as Faora was a far better fit than her as Lois. She was not only far more attractive with the different hair, makeup, and clothes, but the character was a better fit to the actress than the Lois character. Really a shame she didn't get to be that character more, or have a Lois that is better written to her acting talents.

I swear everybody in this episode got knocked unconscious - Clark, Lois, Kara, Oliver, Tess, and Davis! That's got to be a friggin' Smallville record.

Poor Sam Witwer, once again he's run through by surprise by his creator. This guy just can't catch a break. :p

All in all, not the worst episode but not a good one either. We got some stuff developed though, that's good, character development for a few folks.

Tycho

11-07-2008, 12:25 AM

CW was the only channel to screw up down here in SD.

All my other channels worked. There was no sound on CW and just static noise (but there was a picture).

I chose not to watch that way and I'll catch the show on YouTube or DVD.

Anything seriously important happen? Kara return from TPZ?

JediTricks

11-07-2008, 12:31 AM

A lot actually, I started to type it up but realized it needs to be seen.

Droid

11-07-2008, 12:22 PM

So who took the crystal from Tess and who mailed it to the farm? It doesn't make sense for it to be Lex (although maybe he's Kryptonian tainted Lex now :rolleyes:). Why would a crystal that would allegedly rebuild the fortress send Clark to the Phantom Zone? All questions that will probably never be answered.

By the way, what happened to Zod on this show after he possessed Lex? Is he "dead"? Is he a loose phantom somewhere on Earth? Did he get sent back to the zone?

JetsAndHeels

11-08-2008, 11:16 AM

I liked the episode pretty much. One thing puzzles me though:

Why the hell would Clark open the box with the crystal in it right there with Lois watching? Even if he did not know what was in it, once he opened it he saw the crystal. He did not have to take it out so it could power up.

I know it may seem trivial, but for a guy who wants to keep his secret, that seemed like a big no-no.

Tycho

11-08-2008, 03:17 PM

JediTricks

11-08-2008, 06:37 PM

Clark doesn't seem to use his powers for everyday stuff, except for strength and speed. Basically, because he's dumb.

The "X" mystery character I bet will be unsatisfyingly Lex Luthor with another convoluted reasoning for his change of behavior.

Tycho

11-08-2008, 09:52 PM

Is Clark supposed to be dumb?

Or is he naive? Idealistic? Never tiring of giving others second chances?

Then again, is all of the above just being dumb anyway?

To change that perception, would anyone like a cynical Superman who gives second chances anyway?

"Lex, you'll probably just end up back in jail because you're an evil SOB who's beyond redemption anyway, but I'll fix things and save you one more time anyway...."

I guess watching Clark in action then would kind of be a bummer, rather than if he just acts like a hero in spite of everything.

JetsAndHeels

11-09-2008, 06:13 PM

Uh - he has X-ray vision. How could he not know what was in a paper box before he opened it? I didn't have any sound to my TV on that channel (CW's fault) but I did see that part. The box wasn't lead.

Then that is even more reason for him to keep the box shut and not open it while Lois is around!!

Think, McFly, Think!!

Tycho

11-09-2008, 09:42 PM

I'm finishing watching my Season 7 DVDs. I missed a few episodes there. I hadn't cared as much.

The one where Pete Ross returned was pretty good. It was blatant product-placement for Stride Gum, but I didn't mind. It was creatively done.

The Veratas thing is building up until Lionnel's eventual death. I think it seems as though the build-up was too short for Lex to whack his own father over this. I don't remember too well, how it happened. But I know Lionnel fell out his top-story office window and Lex caused it to happen - either by throwing him or shooting him. I think the build-up to that should have been more than 2-3 episodes though. There were moments over the years, like when Lex hesitates to save him in the first-season cliff-hanger (during the tornado) but the writers have always backed off from that position.

They had the chance to do a season-build-up here. But we'll see how it goes from just a 3 episode story arc.

And if Michael Rosenbaum was leaving the show, they should have had Lex go to prison for the murder of his father. They could clear him or have him win an appeal or something when they want to bring him back as a guest star - or have him escape from prison like he did in the Gene Hackman movies.

Tycho

11-11-2008, 04:09 PM

I'm getting the episode I missed downloaded bit by bit.

Broadband is not nearly as fast as DSL was. Maybe I should go back?

But Davis aka Doomsday is the son of Zod? Wow. I didn't see that coming.

Quite interesting. I just got to the part where Green Arrow is breaking into the Luthor mansion, and it's doing some more loading. Darn broadband...

EDIT: AFTER FINISHING THE EPISODE:

Wow! Great episode. Perhaps my favorite from Smallville in a long time.

So

Brainiac was created by Jor-El and corrupted by Zod?
Zor-El somehow rivaled his brother - perhaps just over Lara, but maybe there was more?
Doomsday was created by Zod and his wife, who was not Ursa (from Superman II)?
Bizarro is a phantom who bio-engineered himself off Kal-El, and had been formerly an experiment?

Have I got these right?

JediTricks

11-11-2008, 10:29 PM

Clark is naive, he believes in the best in people. Unless they throw guns at him, then he punches their heads to custard.

Keep in mind, Clark didn't recognize the crystal when he opened it, and it's not like it's ever acted that way before. Unwise to open it in front of Lois? Yes. Full-blown mental handicap moment? No.

Tycho

11-12-2008, 10:55 AM

How come they write the show that way: such that everyone watching will think THEY too are smarter than Clark (isn't NOT being naive, part of being smart?) and what does it say, that we are all cynics and untrusting?

I guess Clark's example is supposed to affect us and we are supposed to be better to each other and give each other the benefit of the doubt?

Well I realized 8 years ago that I think like Lex Luthor instead.

Droid

11-12-2008, 02:43 PM

I thought that Jimmy Olsen from the Superman movies, the Kryptonian who lived on Earth as a human for years and years created Brainiac.

Tycho

11-12-2008, 04:40 PM

No. We're you paying attention? Anakin Skywalker built Brainiac when he was 9 years old.

Jedi_Kal-El

11-13-2008, 03:18 PM

I thought that Jimmy Olsen from the Superman movies, the Kryptonian who lived on Earth as a human for years and years created Brainiac.

Dax-Ur created the orignial Brainiac program to make life easier on Krypton. He abandoned his work after learning of it's desrtuctive capability. Jor-El picked up the work and recreated him years later giving him a body to help aid in the war against Zod.

JetsAndHeels

11-13-2008, 05:18 PM

2 items of business on todays agenda:

First of all, Tori Spelling will be returning. She will reprise her role as Linda Lake. Look for her to be back in early 2009.

Second, here is tonight's episode description:

The 9th episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, November 13th, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Abyss", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

BRAINIAC ERASES CHLOE'S MEMORY - Brainiac begins removing Chloe's (Allison Mack) memories one by one until the only person she remembers is Davis (Sam Witwer). Clark realizes the only way to stop Brainiac from taking over Chloe's mind is to rebuild the Fortress and ask Jor-El to heal her.
"Abyss" was writted by Don Whitehead and Holly Henderson and was directed by Kevin Fair.

Jedi_Kal-El

11-13-2008, 09:34 PM

Yah!!! Tori Spelling!!! :mad: Some characters should stay dead. She's one of them.

Tonites episode was good, but next weeks is gonna kick someserious butt!!!

JediTricks

11-13-2008, 09:46 PM

How come they write the show that way: such that everyone watching will think THEY too are smarter than Clark (isn't NOT being naive, part of being smart?) and what does it say, that we are all cynics and untrusting? One can be naive and still smart, it's all about attitude and faith in the human condition. However, they write Clark's naivite far too broadly on the show, as well as a bit inconsistently, and when he finally is burned they write him as bitter and calloused which isn't what Supes is about.

I kinda wish tonight's ep wasn't focused on Davis, they overplayed their hand there in recent eps and I fear this will take that over the top.

Jedi_Kal-El

11-13-2008, 11:37 PM

They're over playing Davis for the big DD reveal.

JediTricks

11-14-2008, 04:56 AM

That costume at the preview for next week looked accurate and yet costumey, kinda like The Thing in the Fantastic Four movies.

This episode was a bit of a letdown, and the big twists were too obvious for my tastes. Everything's chugging along like it's trying to get the train into the station rather than tell the story.

Jedi_Kal-El

11-14-2008, 12:17 PM

It did look a bit costumey, but at least they're not giving us a super dumbed down version of the character. I do hope that as DD progresses that the Chloe infatuation fades which I'm assuming probably will.

Tycho

11-15-2008, 11:11 AM

I'll have to watch this one online as well. I missed it because my grandma is in the hospital and not faring too well.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

11-15-2008, 12:28 PM

I really liked the episode and I feel bad for Clark as Chloe was one of his oldest friends and it's gotta sucks to lose her on that level of secrecy. Still, he did make the right choice.

And I did really like the flashback scene of the two of them in the barn. That young actress did a GREAT job of playing Chloe; the mannerisms and the way she spoke were dead on. I couldn't help but chuckle.

From what I saw of Doomsday, I really like it. They'll probably keep him in the shadows quite a bit unless they can mesh the CGI and costume well. Regardless, i'm really lookin' forward to it! :thumbsup:

Droid

11-17-2008, 03:45 PM

One nitpick before I get into it - Clark could not have run, checked out a library book, and returned to the barn that fast at that age. They said on the show he grew into his abilitiies. That is too fast - even if he stole the book rather than checked it out.

I thought it was a very gripping episode. I was much more into it than most.
There were parts that were just so terribly sad.

On one hand, it was very heroic of Clark to have Chloe forget everything. And it does help transition towards the Superman mythos we know of with Chloe not really being around - particularly if they don't want to kill her. However, that seemed pretty unethical to me. Clark knew that Clark meant the world to Chloe and that her ability to help him made her feel special. So much of her memory of the past years has been re-written or is now gone. He basically took the thing she cherished most about her life away from her because "he knows what is best". I think it was an odd writing choice. It may show Clark growing up, but it also removes one of the only people Clark can talk to about problems. Clark talking to Chloe kind of helps fill screen time in some episodes. From a stroy perspective, I am really sad for Clark.

But why should Oliver, Lana, and Pete, and probably 30 other characters in the run of the show get to know Clark's secret, but Chloe doesn't? The three I listed don't have powers. Chloe thought she was making the world a better place by being Clark's support system and he took that from her.

With this plot development Chloe and Lois are basically the same character.

Was that Brainiac or Davis' voice in the Fortress at the end?

They have totally watered down Doomsday and I think the next few weeks will be cringe worthy.

JetsAndHeels

11-20-2008, 11:38 AM

Tonight is the night...Doomsday!! I can't wait.

Here is our episode description:

The 10th episode of "Smallville" Season 8 airs in the U.S. on Thursday, November 20th, 2008 at 8.00pm. Titled "Bride", here's the official (spoiler filled) description from The CW...

IT’S CHLOE AND JIMMY’S DREAM WEDDING DAY BUT TWO UNEXPECTED GUESTS CRASH THE PARTY - Chloe (Allison Mack) is excited that she's marrying Jimmy (Aaron Ashmore) but is worried that Davis (Sam Witwer) will stop the wedding. Meanwhile, Oliver (Justin Hartley) tells Clark (Tom Welling) he thinks he's discovered where Lex is hiding and takes off to Cuba to confront him. However, when he arrives, Oliver is shocked to find Lana (Kristin Kreuk) instead. Clark and Lois (Erica Durance) grow closer but chaos ensues when Doomsday crashes the wedding and tries to kidnap Chloe.
"Bride" was written by Al Septian and Turi Meyer and directed by Jeannot Szwarc.

Tycho

11-20-2008, 01:44 PM

I hope I am able to watch it. With my Grandma and everything going on right now.

I missed last week, too. I have no way at home to record this. But perhaps my cousins will record it for me.

But I get the gist of last week from your posts: Chloe's memory was erased and her not knowing anything of Clark has been re-booted.

Of course I don't want to miss Lana's guest appearances. :love:

Jedi_Kal-El

11-20-2008, 04:35 PM

You can watch full episodes on the CW website now Tycho if you're unable to watch them when they air.

JediTricks

11-21-2008, 04:58 PM

Ok, why did they think making the first half of the episode into Cloverfield was a good idea? And man, that suit looks pretty suity, reminds me of Roger Corman's Fantastic Four. :p Episode was a lot of emo-talking and not much in the way of action. Lots of plot holes (gee, it's too bad Oliver doesn't know another speedy guy or anything; and that's not how routers work) and Lana back was underwhelming (she looked not so great, too) but at least she got hit in the head again for old time's sake. :D Doomsday wasn't very big either. And poor Lois, they wrote her so stupid-in-love. That ending made NO sense.

For a while, I was hoping that The Traveler was going to end up being Doomsday rather than Clark, that would make a lot more sense at this point and make Doomsday not kill Clark at this stage in the Superman lore which is kinda important. I also thought the Kryptonite was going to play into it, but that was a waste of time too.

So the show's on hiatus until the new year, then they're bringing in new heroes. I fear that ugly sack of crap they showed was Steel, looked totally ridiculous.

Jedi_Kal-El

11-21-2008, 07:48 PM

Heck the end scene with you know who trumped everything they tried to pull off with Doomsday.

JetsAndHeels

11-21-2008, 07:49 PM

Glad you liked the episode, JT.

I enjoyed it myself. Not enough Doomsday if you ask me, but overall I thought it was as good as a wedding episode could get. I wish Lois and Clark had actually been able to connect there (thanks alot Lana). Otherwise I enjoyed it and I am looking forward to new episodes in January.

Droid

11-21-2008, 09:27 PM

Hated the Cloverfield stuff.

The inconsistency of Clark refusing to help Oliver on Chloe's wedding day, going to commercial, and Clark rushing in with the router was stupid. Who was the guy Oliver let listen in on his conversation with Clark? Really protecting the secret there.

Lana was pointless as always.

What is up with the very ending? I know who it was, but it didn't make sense.

I hate how Doomsday is in love with Chloe and that is his primary motivation right now.

Gee, when there was something walking on the barn it's a shame Clark couldn't do anything like use X-ray vision or run outside and get on top of the barn real fast and see what was going on.

Ya, better to sit with Lana in the hospital than to run around looking for Chloe at super speed.

Is Doomsday that fast, that he could leave without Clark knowing where he went? I seem to remember in the original Supes-Doomsday fight something about them hitting each other so fast that people couldn't see their hands, but I don't remember him as terribly fast.

JediTricks

11-23-2008, 04:40 AM

Heck the end scene with you know who trumped everything they tried to pull off with Doomsday.Doomy is just an old romantic at heart. :love: :p

Glad you liked the episode, JT.Which episode was that? ;)

Not enough Doomsday if you ask meTotally agree! They needed to own that thing right there and instead they acted like either they were ashamed of the final version, or they wanted to cliffhanger the full look (which IMO is a mistake).

, but overall I thought it was as good as a wedding episode could get. I wish Lois and Clark had actually been able to connect there (thanks alot Lana). Otherwise I enjoyed it and I am looking forward to new episodes in January.Lana c-blocking Lois actually was a pretty solid piece of wedding-show writing, and they did end up marrying which was bold, usually the soap opera baddie takes the bride JUST BEFORE the vows are complete. :p

The inconsistency of Clark refusing to help Oliver on Chloe's wedding day, going to commercial, and Clark rushing in with the router was stupid. Yeah, you are NOT kidding there, that was really poor writing!

Who was the guy Oliver let listen in on his conversation with Clark? Really protecting the secret there.Good point. And how does a turned-off router send a wifi signal to that guy as well?

Lana was pointless as always.No no, she's mysterious again. :rolleyes:

What is up with the very ending? I know who it was, but it didn't make sense.WTF? I am confused by you 2 talking about the very ending, did I miss something there? I thought SPOILER TEXT: == it was Chloe taken over by Brainiac who had taken over the Fortress, and that's how he got into her when she was placed in the Fortress. ==

I hate how Doomsday is in love with Chloe and that is his primary motivation right now.No, Doomsday SMASH! :p Yeah, it is a little silly soap-opera the way they played that. When his feelings were motivated by Brainiac, that at least had connection.

Gee, when there was something walking on the barn it's a shame Clark couldn't do anything like use X-ray vision or run outside and get on top of the barn real fast and see what was going on.Clark has terrible reflexes when he's not in "super mode". Earlier in the ep, someone bumps into him and it pushes him into Lois, this is SUPERMAN, he can react faster than a speeding bullet and he's super strong, how the hell is this stuff always taking him by surprise?

Ya, better to sit with Lana in the hospital than to run around looking for Chloe at super speed.To be fair, Clark isn't one of those "look everywhere in the world" guys, we've seen that of him before.

Is Doomsday that fast, that he could leave without Clark knowing where he went? I seem to remember in the original Supes-Doomsday fight something about them hitting each other so fast that people couldn't see their hands, but I don't remember him as terribly fast.Clark was knocked away and was busy with the kryptonite, it was a distraction at the time. But yeah, Clark greatly underestimated this thing.

pbarnard

11-23-2008, 03:36 PM

Why is it every episode of Smallville is told in flash back? They show the "ending" or near enough, than go 8 hours or more back in time. This is the third or fourth episode like this.

JetsAndHeels

11-24-2008, 11:07 AM

Why is it every episode of Smallville is told in flash back? They show the "ending" or near enough, than go 8 hours or more back in time. This is the third or fourth episode like this.

If I remember correctly, the first time they used this was on the episode "Spirit", in season 4. That was the one where Chloe tries to set everyone on fire at the prom. She had actually been possessed by the spirit of a girl who had a wreck and landed out in a field of meteor rock.

That episode worked, and I liked it personally because it started out showing Chloe as the enemy. I remember going "what the hell", but then it explained during the show how the spirit overtook her. She then posessed Clark and Jonathan used the kryptonite to drive her out.

pbarnard

11-24-2008, 12:51 PM

Yes, but the Lana/Lex wedding was the same way. One could even say Requieum where Jonathan Kent dies is the same thing. I'm saying it is getting to be a tiresome device in a tiresome series that for now has reverted into being almost entertaining from where it was the previous 3-4 years. It's like the writers are using all the bad cliches one is advised to avoid in a high school creative writing class.

Tycho

11-24-2008, 01:07 PM

It's like the writers are using all the bad cliches one is advised to avoid in a high school creative writing class.

Oh yeah? Then where is the AllSpark and how come DoomsDay didn't have flames on his sides?

I didn't see the episode, but I haven't heard that there was even ONE masturbation joke or pee-pee scene either.

And Shelby could've appeared on drugs.

Also, Doomsday could have announced "I am Doomsday!" in case we didn't know or something.

Then Clark could have said, "One shall stand and one shall fall!"

The lack of all these cliches in this episode suggests it didn't stand a chance to live up to its full craptacular potential such as if Orci and Kurtzman were writing it.

Who do I complain to?

JetsAndHeels

11-24-2008, 02:10 PM

Oh yeah? Then where is the AllSpark and how come DoomsDay didn't have flames on his sides?

I didn't see the episode, but I haven't heard that there was even ONE masturbation joke or pee-pee scene either.

And Shelby could've appeared on drugs.

Also, Doomsday could have announced "I am Doomsday!" in case we didn't know or something.

Then Clark could have said, "One shall stand and one shall fall!"

The lack of all these cliches in this episode suggests it didn't stand a chance to live up to its full craptacular potential such as if Orci and Kurtzman were writing it.

Who do I complain to?

Wow, total breakdown there.

Keep your Transformers talk out of this thread, thanks.