If you STILL like the Prequels, then....

[stillakid]

1. ... you must be a big fan of BATMAN and ROBIN (http://imdb.com/title/tt0118688/) too.
2.

[El Chuxter]

Dude, that's just mean.

Next to B&R, AOTC looks like frigging Citizen Kane.

[bigbarada]

2. ...consider The Backyardigans to be a technical masterpiece.

[JediTricks]

3. ...you're still waiting for your investments in dot-com stock and beanie babies to pay off.

[bigbarada]

4. ...consider Dora the Explorer to be a part of Latino heritage.

[Rocketboy]

5. ...you still p*ss & moan about them on the internet every chance you get.

[Mr. JabbaJohnL]

6. . . . then you must be stillakid. Wait . . . does he like them or not? He sure never talks about it.

[jjreason]

If I admit here and now that I was really fond of the Bat-Nipples on the those costumes, will anyone think less of me?

That might still be the worst movie I have ever paid money to see in the theatre. Good God in heaven, it's terrible.

[Kidhuman]

...you must be a redneck??????

[JediTricks]

7. ...I have this lovely bridge in Manhattan to sell you.

[jjreason]

4. ...consider Dora the Explorer to be a part of Latino heritage.

All the Spanish I know, I learned from Dora and Diego. :love:

[bigbarada]

8. ... think Transformers should get the Oscar for Best-Picture for 2007.

[stillakid]

9 .... you never saw a movie before the Prequels nor any since.

[stillakid]

10. .... you love ALL movies and find satisfaction in everything no matter what. :)

[stillakid]

11. .... your paychecks have the Lucasfilm logo on them.

[2-1B]

12. ... you still buy the toys and mask it with justification on the grounds of quality "production design"

[JON9000]

13. you probably like LOTS of stuff that only babies and fanboys like. So, you must be a baby or a fan boy. (I'm so clever!):cross-eye

[bigbarada]

14. ... you are obviously NOT Ewan McGregor.

[JediTricks]

15. ...you have questionable taste.

[Bel-Cam Jos]

16. ... you don't need to overanalyze everything and can sit back and find fun in the movie theaters, even if the films aren't "perfect" or what YOU want to see the director create.

[stillakid]

17. ... you consider Halo 3 to be on par with Citizen Kane and The Godfather.

[bigbarada]

18. ... you think Jim Carrey is the most unappreciated actor of our generation.

[Battle Droid]

19. You're a true Star Wars fan.:p

[darthvyn]

20. you must have gone into the theater without having written your own version in your head.

[stillakid]

21. You definitely went into the theater without seeing the Original Trilogy first...or ever.

[Lord Malakite]

22. ...you secretly wish for the Star Wars toyline to consist of nothing but army building trooper figures (preferably ones pulled from no credible resource other than a creative hallucination of a Hasbro employee's recent acid trip) and you must have also somehow rigged the Hasbro's Saga ballot box so that only the acid trip induced troopers already released in the market would win a chance at re-release.

[Qui-Long Gone]

23. You realize they've keep the toy line that you love in business.....




24. You are waiting for Lucuas to tie up the loose ends in ROTS....oh wait.....




25. You're six years old.




26. Having waited outside for hours next to a nerd in glasses dressed as your childhood hero you sat in the theatre after the credits of TPM and said, "well, maybe the next two will be better."

[El Chuxter]

27. This number is reserved for a Weird Al reference.

28. You have the poor taste to buy your mom a Mother's Day card with The Grin on it, and a suggestive message inside.

[JediTricks]

29. You think the phrases "wizard!" and "yippee" should be used in more high dramas like these.

30. You probably think Aerosmith's "Nine Lives" and "Just Push Play" are also underrated works.

[2-1B]

30. You probably think Aerosmith's "Nine Lives" and "Just Push Play" are also underrated works.

The first of the two is actually underrated.

[El Chuxter]

Nine Lives was the best studio album they recorded since Toys in the Attic. I've never been able to get into Just Push Play, and it's still my least fave album by them by far.

[2-1B]

JPP has a few good tunes but the album is sketchy and weak overall...Nine Lives is very solid, problem being that they released the two weakest songs as the first two singles.

[JediTricks]

You guys are crazy, both those albums are WAY overproduced and reek of corporate pop-as-rock. If they hadn't released Honkin' on Bobo, it'd be SO easy to say the band is over (not that Bobo is a great album, it just has a more raw, exuberant Aerosmith sound) - looking at their NASCAR/Britney/Super Bowl Halftime show during the JPP era it's easy to see a band sold all the way out.

[El Chuxter]

"Not that Bobo is a great album"?

So you dislike Nine Lives (which redeemed the pop trend they seemed to take on Get a Grip and the subsequent non-album tracks), and think Honkin' on Bobo is less than one of their best?

Sir, I bid you good day! :mad:

Caesar, did you get the Best Buy version of JPP with "Face"? It shouldn't have been an exclusive track, as it's one of the better songs on the disc. (Of course, get past "Jaded," and that really isn't say much. Get Your Wings this ain't.)

[Mr. JabbaJohnL]

Hey! You guys need to start insulting the intelligence of people who like the prequels or just GET THE HELL OUT!!!

[stillakid]

I just watched all three Prequel films again today... three in a row. Yeah. How'd I do it, you ask? Lots and lots of alcohol. Sure, I took a little nap somewhere during the Megaman sequence in AOTC, but I made it through all three. Oh, I had to take a quick shower during the last moments of ROTS while the gratuitous fanboy shots of Vader were happening, but otherwise, I saw them all. :)


Next up, the OT. I can't wait. :)

[Blue2th]

I just started watching the Prequels at one a day. Saw Episode 1 and 2. Fixing to watch 3 today.

I must say that after not seeing Episode 1 in over a year, I can say that I enjoyed it again, and could actually sit through the whole thing.

I found the first few chapters of Episode 2 Anakin-Padme love story till they leave Naboo excrutiatingly bad still.

[JediTricks]

31. you also believed them when they said Titan A.E. was "this generation's Star Wars".



"Not that Bobo is a great album"?

So you dislike Nine Lives (which redeemed the pop trend they seemed to take on Get a Grip and the subsequent non-album tracks), and think Honkin' on Bobo is less than one of their best?

Sir, I bid you good day! :mad:Nine Lives reeks of that pop trend, I'd say it's the worst of it except JPP is jockeying for the same position. You can bid me good day all you like, but the truth is that those 2 are the pinnacle of Aerosmith's sell-out phase.

Bobo is a good album, entertaining, but I don't think it can be classified as "great" because it's all covers except for 1 tune. It's Aerosmith having fun and getting back to their roots, but it's not them writing nasty, smutty, awesome songs like they could have.

[Qui-Long Gone]

32. You would prefer listening to Aerosmith music than staring at nude pictures of Liv Tyler!:whip:

[El Chuxter]

Nine Lives reeks of that pop trend, I'd say it's the worst of it except JPP is jockeying for the same position. You can bid me good day all you like, but the truth is that those 2 are the pinnacle of Aerosmith's sell-out phase.

"You will find that many of the things we hold true depend greatly upon our point of view."

And if you hate Nine Lives, I cannot convince you otherwise. Nor will you, in light of this, ever convince me that you are not, indeed, a Doombot with little taste in music. :p

Bobo is a good album, entertaining, but I don't think it can be classified as "great" because it's all covers except for 1 tune. It's Aerosmith having fun and getting back to their roots, but it's not them writing nasty, smutty, awesome songs like they could have.

Whereas I would argue that, by reinterpreting these classic songs (and there's not a carbon copy cover on the album), they introduced them to a new bunch of listeners who otherwise would never have known them. Do you drive around blasting Sonny Boy Williamson [II]? If so, you're the only other person I know of who does. (Face it, the guy ruled. If you can make a dirty blues song about Santa Claus, you are a god among men.)

32. You would prefer listening to Aerosmith music than staring at nude pictures of Liv Tyler!:whip:

You mean one has to choose? :eek:

[Qui-Long Gone]

You mean one has to choose? :eek:

Yes, for the sake of this argument:D

[Tycho]

8. ... think Transformers should get the Oscar for Best-Picture for 2007.

Hey, I support that! The Academy needs to vote for Optimus Prime!

I'm sure everyone here will make fun of me, but I liked the prequels as well.

You guys loved the OT because it first came to you when:

1) It focused on the brutal dark times under the Empire
2) You were a child of 5-10 years of age.

The PT came to you when:

1) The galaxy was not yet at war (until the last half hour of AOTC)
2) You are an adult between 20-and 40 years
3) A complicated political conspiracy story had to establish the creation of the Empire
4) Lucas tried to rope a a new kiddie generation with a kid and cartoon character

They are indeed different kinds of movies.

Harrison Ford is an "A+" list actor that Natalie Portman or even Samuel L. Jackson don't approach in caliber. Hayden wasn't more or less established than Mark Hamill, but Hamill is maybe a bit better actor with better writing for him (both Skywalkers whined though). Lucas decided to make Qui-Gon a Vulcan, thereby tying Liam Neeson's hands. Ewan McGreggor did very well, but wasn't written for as good as he could have been. Ian McDiarmid was brilliant, but of course he is an OT actor as well as a PT actor. ROTS was his best film though.

Meanwhile, Transformers was awesome and should not be made fun of! Michael Bay is on his ascension to becoming a film lore god and Spielberg (who IS already a film lore god) is helping him.

Transformers will be the new Star Wars. Until all are one! Roll out!

[stillakid]

Hey, I support that! The Academy needs to vote for Optimus Prime!

I'm sure everyone here will make fun of me, but I liked the prequels as well.

You guys loved the OT because it first came to you when:

1) It focused on the brutal dark times under the Empire
2) You were a child of 5-10 years of age.


The PT came to you when:

1) The galaxy was not yet at war (until the last half hour of AOTC)
2) You are an adult between 20-and 40 years
3) A complicated political conspiracy story had to establish the creation of the Empire
4) Lucas tried to rope a a new kiddie generation with a kid and cartoon character

These two statements imply that the only reason and way anyone really loves Star Wars movies is because they are a kid or because they can "let go" of being an adult while watching them.

Bu**sh**.

The reason the OT is universally enjoyed is because it was a well written and executed story. Lucas conceived it. Huyck, Katz, and Kasdan wrote it. Lucas (sort of) directed ANH, Kerschner ESB, and Marquand ROTJ.

The reason the Prequels were universally panned has nothing to do with age. It has to do with the quality of the storytelling and to a lesser extent, the execution. Lucas did away with quality writers and chose to do it all himself this time. Reports from actors themselves on set indicate that George was more interested in the process (upwards of 120 setups a day!!!!) than in actually working to create a quality product. It doesn't matter how old someone is when they watch it...age has nothing to do with the intrinsic quality of something.

They are indeed different kinds of movies.
That's an understatement.

Harrison Ford is an "A+" list actor that Natalie Portman or even Samuel L. Jackson don't approach in caliber.
While this is an entirely subjective opinion, I disagree. Arguably, Natalie is a far superior actor than Ford ever has been. You wouldn't know it from the poor material in the Prequels, but her other work showcases her talent.

Sam Jackson is a lousy actor no matter what he's in.

Hayden wasn't more or less established than Mark Hamill, but maybe a bit better actor with better writing for him (both Skywalkers whined though).
Please. Enough with the "luke was a whiner" bs that tries to undermine Hamill's acting. He was SUPPOSED to be a whiner. That's like insulting Deniro for being an a**hole in The Untouchables. He's supposed to be like that. Trying to equate Luke's "whining" character to Anakin's all-over-the-map inconsistent mood swings is a red-herring argument. Hayd-akin blows as an actor and he shows it entirely in the Prequels. Hamill isn't Peter O'Toole, but he does his part as it was meant to be.


Lucas decided to make Qui-Gon a Vulcan, thereby tying Liam Neeson's hands.
Right. And it sucked. Not only a bad choice for any character ever (except a Vulcan), but it was for a useless character anyway. Two strikes against that one.

Ewan McGreggor did very well, but wasn't written for as good as he could have been.
Agreed, especially given the crappy material and non-existent direction George gave him. Ewan even stormed off set one day (green screen Kamino sequence) after George refused to give him ANY sense of what the environment or aliens would look like. Word is, it took two days to find him and convince him to come back to work.

Ian McDiarmid was brilliant, but of course he is an OT actor as well as a PT actor. ROTS was his best film though.
I wouldn't say brilliant, but decent. Not sure what the fu** happened with his over theatrical bs after he turns into the Emperor. Suddenly he thought he had to play Broadway and win a Tony.

Meanwhile, Transformers was awesome and should not be made fun of! Michael Bay is on his ascension to becoming a film lore god and Spielberg (who IS already a film lore god) is helping him.
Meh.

Transformers will be the new Star Wars. Until all are one! Roll out!
Not a chance. Fad.

[2-1B]

JT and Chux, we can take the Aerosmith discussion into Chux's Aero thread if you guys are up for it ? :)

Harrison Ford is an "A+" list actor that Natalie Portman or even Samuel L. Jackson don't approach in caliber.

What ? :confused: NatPo is highest of the 3 and while Sam Jackson has made some real duds, I think he's on par with Ford overall. Not a knock against Ford because I think he's awesome, just sayin I think Sam has done some awesome films. :)

Hayden wasn't more or less established than Mark Hamill, but Hamill is maybe a bit better actor with better writing for him (both Skywalkers whined though).

Hayden has made two solid non-SW films with great acting that I've seen (I haven't seen Factory Girl yet?)...what has Hammill done ? :confused: Jay and Silent Bob and cartoon voiceover work? :confused: I'm surprised he didn't voice some of the PT characters. lol

Meanwhile, Transformers was awesome and should not be made fun of!

If you're gonna make foolish requests like that, you may as well also ask stillakid to stop slammin' the prequels - neither of the requests would ever be honored. :crazed:

[Tycho]

These two statements imply that the only reason and way anyone really loves Star Wars movies is because they are a kid or because they can "let go" of being an adult while watching them.

Being a kid helps. Do I detect you want to change your screenname? :D

It has to do with the quality of the storytelling and to a lesser extent, the execution.

If you mean by gaps in logic, such as how Padme falls in love with Anakin whom she's been resisting while he even goes homicidal? Or how Palpatine suddenly can't teach Anakin how to cheat death after he turns to the Dark Side, pledging his allegiance for that very reason, then yes, there are problems with the quality of storytelling that are not so profound in the OT. (Mind you, I don't think Qui-Gon was one of them, and I'm indifferent to midichlorians - though I see how they were referenced in Palpatine's monologue to Anakin in the opera scene.)


While this is an entirely subjective opinion, I disagree. Arguably, Natalie is a far superior actor than Ford ever has been. You wouldn't know it from the poor material in the Prequels, but her other work showcases her talent.

I've never been really inspired to go out and watch Natalie's other films. It's possibly because I so strongly dislike patronizing women (though I want to go see Jessica Alba's comedy so I can leer at her in her panties) :love:

But generally, I think it's "girly" to be a fan of women performers unless they're in porn. :thumbsup:

Trying to equate Luke's "whining" character to Anakin's all-over-the-map inconsistent mood swings is a red-herring argument.

Maybe Anakin was supposed to be like that - bi-Polar. It helps him have his second identity: Darth Vader.


Right. And it sucked. Not only a bad choice for any character ever (except a Vulcan), but it was for a useless character anyway. Two strikes against that one.

Qui-Gon could have been presented any number of ways:

a Vulcan (Jedi being emotionally controlled, in other words)
an Emo (portrayed by Patrick Stewart?)
a comedian (played by Kevin Smith?)
a raving tyrant (played by Jack Nicholson or Robert DeNiro)

Lucas does tend to use archetypes and he was establishing the Jedi Order with the characterization anyway. I think I prefer the Vulcan over all these other choices.

Now as to whether Qui-Gon was necessary?

1) Anakin might have been created by the Sith, by Darth Plageuis - but he wasn't being trained by him (Lucas could have also done that with the story, but the Jedi might've really sensed that).

2) Had Anakin been trained by an experienced Jedi Master like Qui-Gon, he might have been better balanced. Obi-Wan wasn't even a Jedi when he decided he was ready to teach like any other Master because it was Qui-Gon's dying wish (partially because he felt responsible for Anakin because he promised he'd be to Shmi).

3) Anakin was old for Jedi training, familiar with emotions, and his personality was established. He resented authority because he'd been a slave. He was competative because of his sport. He was quick to anger because he was picked on. He could become attached to female-figures because he was nurtured by his natural mother.

If on the other hand, Anakin was introduced as this perfect Jedi, the story would land the failure on Obi-Wan's shoulders, and he is perhaps deserving of only 25% of the blame.


Agreed, especially given the crappy material and non-existent direction George gave him. Ewan even stormed off set one day (green screen Kamino sequence) after George refused to give him ANY sense of what the environment or aliens would look like. Word is, it took two days to find him and convince him to come back to work.

That was dumb of George. Did he make a bad decision for bad reasons? Or did Jay Johnstone and Doug Chiang et. all create Kamino entirely themselves and George not even know what they were doing back at ILM?

I wouldn't say brilliant, but decent. Not sure what the fu** happened with his over theatrical bs after he turns into the Emperor. Suddenly he thought he had to play Broadway and win a Tony.

That was funny, actually. Maybe inappropriate for SW, but funny nevertheless. I love Ian! No! No! No!

[El Chuxter]

I've never been really inspired to go out and watch Natalie's other films. It's possibly because I so strongly dislike patronizing women (though I want to go see Jessica Alba's comedy so I can leer at her in her panties) :love:

But generally, I think it's "girly" to be a fan of women performers unless they're in porn. :thumbsup:

I just quoted this so that, in case anyone's just ignoring or skipping your posts, they can read that statement, scratch their heads, and just say, "Huh?"

There will be another movie in about two years with more robotic lemurs who have stolen the names of Transformers engaging in roboerotic combat, so you should enjoy that.

[stillakid]

Being a kid helps. Do I detect you want to change your screenname? :D
No, you missed the point. My own 12 year old knows how dumb the Prequels are compared to the OT. It isn't about age, it's about quality. If someone chooses to ignore poor storytelling, that's their perojative, but it doesn't change the fact that something is wrong.



If you mean by gaps in logic, such as how Padme falls in love with Anakin whom she's been resisting while he even goes homicidal? Or how Palpatine suddenly can't teach Anakin how to cheat death after he turns to the Dark Side, pledging his allegiance for that very reason,
Yes, and then some.

then yes, there are problems with the quality of storytelling that are not so profound in the OT.
List 'em. You aren't allowed to just drop an accusation like that as if it were an undisputed fact. Who do you think you are, Fox News?


(Mind you, I don't think Qui-Gon was one of them, and I'm indifferent to midichlorians - though I see how they were referenced in Palpatine's monologue to Anakin in the opera scene.)
Your opinions and everyone else's have nothing to do with empirically bad storytelling.




I've never been really inspired to go out and watch Natalie's other films. It's possibly because I so strongly dislike patronizing women (though I want to go see Jessica Alba's comedy so I can leer at her in her panties) :love:

But generally, I think it's "girly" to be a fan of women performers unless they're in porn. :thumbsup:
Well, that's your own problem. Natalie is AMAZING is The Professional as well as a number of other films. I also had the pleasure of watching her in NY in The Diary of Anne Frank. She is Audrey Hepburn reincarnated.

I've also loved Bonny Hunt in just about everything she's done. Elizabeth Perkins is also a favorite of mine. Those women are more than window dressing. They are genuine actors who portray realistic characters. That's worthy of respect even if they don't drop their panties as soon as the camera rolls.



Maybe Anakin was supposed to be like that - bi-Polar. It helps him have his second identity: Darth Vader.
Well, bi-polar is how I characterized/diagnosed him. I doubt that Lucas and/or the original conception really intended for Anakin's turn to be dependent upon a psychological disorder.




Qui-Gon could have been presented any number of ways:

a Vulcan (Jedi being emotionally controlled, in other words)
an Emo (portrayed by Patrick Stewart?)
a comedian (played by Kevin Smith?)
a raving tyrant (played by Jack Nicholson or Robert DeNiro)

Lucas does tend to use archetypes and he was establishing the Jedi Order with the characterization anyway. I think I prefer the Vulcan over all these other choices.
Qui Gon was pointless, so any choice is nonsense.

Now as to whether Qui-Gon was necessary?

1) Anakin might have been created by the Sith, by Darth Plageuis - but he wasn't being trained by him (Lucas could have also done that with the story, but the Jedi might've really sensed that).

2) Had Anakin been trained by an experienced Jedi Master like Qui-Gon, he might have been better balanced. Obi-Wan wasn't even a Jedi when he decided he was ready to teach like any other Master because it was Qui-Gon's dying wish (partially because he felt responsible for Anakin because he promised he'd be to Shmi).

3) Anakin was old for Jedi training, familiar with emotions, and his personality was established. He resented authority because he'd been a slave. He was competative because of his sport. He was quick to anger because he was picked on. He could become attached to female-figures because he was nurtured by his natural mother.

If on the other hand, Anakin was introduced as this perfect Jedi, the story would land the failure on Obi-Wan's shoulders, and he is perhaps deserving of only 25% of the blame.

I didn't even bother reading most of what you wrote because the original question of whether the character is necessary is easily and definitively answered by the established continuity of the OT. Obi Wan's master was Yoda. Period. Any further discussion of Qui Gon is pointless.




That was dumb of George. Did he make a bad decision for bad reasons? Or did Jay Johnstone and Doug Chiang et. all create Kamino entirely themselves and George not even know what they were doing back at ILM?
Dumb? Yes. As to your other questions...moot. George is the Director/Producer and as such has the responsibility of knowing everything that is going on as well as guiding all aspects of production. If an Actor has a question, it's his job to answer it, not to tell the Actor to sit down and say the lines. That attitude explains the bulk of the problems with the Prequels.



That was funny, actually. Maybe inappropriate for SW, but funny nevertheless. I love Ian! No! No! No!

In the same vein, I LOVED the Grievous character in ROTS. Do I think he really belongs in Star Wars? Not really, no, mainly because I can't picture that character existing in the OT universe (had he lived). I still think he's a fun character in a lot of ways, but quite inappropriate for Star Wars nonetheless.

[Qui-Long Gone]

I don't know what films you guys are watching, but I'm on the bandwagon that Portman IS NOT A GOOD actress....

*Maybe the Specialist is an exception....but NEVER compare her to Ford....

And S Jackson is the man.....sure he makes too many movies, but watch Pulp Fiction, Unbreakable or Snakes on a Plane and tell he he's not the man.....no way sucka.....


Please, you might as well say that the Phantom Menace was as good a screenplay as Jaws....


.....................:upset:.....................

[El Chuxter]

Have you ever seen a little movie by the name of Heat?

Or perhaps this obscure gem called V for Vendetta?

[stillakid]

I don't know what films you guys are watching, but I'm on the bandwagon that Portman IS NOT A GOOD actress....

*Maybe the Specialist is an exception....but NEVER compare her to Ford....

And S Jackson is the man.....sure he makes too many movies, but watch Pulp Fiction, Unbreakable or Snakes on a Plane and tell he he's not the man.....no way sucka.....


Please, you might as well say that the Phantom Menace was as good a screenplay as Jaws....


.....................:upset:.....................

Well, I know by your post that you really haven't seen her movies because she wasn't in The Specialist. It was The Professional. Her resume can be found at www.imdb.com . :yes:

The Prequels make EVERYBODY look bad, even the previously muppet actors, like Yoda. The dialogue is often terrible and unmotivated. Plus, it is common knowledge that Lucas doesn't actually direct the Actors. They are given lines, dressed, and led to greenscreen sets and told to speak when the camera is turned on. Period.

[Tycho]

They are given lines, dressed, and led to greenscreen sets and told to speak when the camera is turned on. Period.

Oh! :thumbsup: That sounds like how I'd run my own auditions for my perfect woman!

[stillakid]

Oh! :thumbsup: That sounds like how I'd run my own auditions for my perfect woman!

Hmm, come on up to work in Canoga Park. You'd fit right in. :thumbsup:

[Rocketboy]

I don't know what films you guys are watching, but I'm on the bandwagon that Portman IS NOT A GOOD actress....That is the craziest damn thing I've heard in a long time.
Leon (The Professional), Closer (a Golden Globe Winning performance), Garden State, V for Vendetta, Heat, Cold Mountain (a small, but outstanding performance), and the new Wes Anderson short Hotel Chevalier - all awesome.

[2-1B]

Hells yeah Rocketboy, I haven't watched Closer or Garden State in a long long time...gotta bump them up on my To Do list.

[Rocketboy]

Hells yeah Rocketboy, I haven't watched Closer or Garden State in a long long time...gotta bump them up on my To Do list.Speaking of Natalie Portman and a To Do list...ummm...nevermind.

Have you seen Hotel Chevalier, Cae?
:love:

[2-1B]

I've not. How can I view this, is it on DVD ? I'm guessing not...if it was a Short.

[Rocketboy]

Yeah, it is a short prequel of sorts to The Darjeeling Limited.
Its on itunes (or other places if you search), but I could get in trouble for posting a link to it (for reasons in your PM box).

[Kidhuman]

Send me linkage also please

[JediTricks]

I don't know what films you guys are watching, but I'm on the bandwagon that Portman IS NOT A GOOD actress....Agreed! I've always thought that as good as she was in The Professional, there hasn't been another role where she's played anything but her standard meek, flat Nat character. I liked V for Vendetta, but she was the weakest part of the film.

[Qui-Long Gone]

Agreed! I've always thought that as good as she was in The Professional, there hasn't been another role where she's played anything but her standard meek, flat Nat character. I liked V for Vendetta, but she was the weakest part of the film.


I do give her credit for the Professional...but she wasn't the reason that film was awsome.....

[JediTricks]

True enough, but if a cuter kid actor had been in the part, it would have crumbled. She was the right note there, no question.

[bigbarada]

Portman was a great child actress in The Professional; but as an adult actress she's been pretty flat and boring.

[TeeEye7]

Hmmmm....

Looking at this picture, she doesn't look flat to me.....:lipsrsealed:

[Qui-Long Gone]

Photoshop does wonders doesn't it?

[TeeEye7]

Photoshop does wonders doesn't it?

Just a few clicks of the "image size" button, and voilá! :D

[Qui-Long Gone]

I hear Lucas thought about doing CGI for her boobs in ROTS....they were going to be a new characters named Jug Jug Binks and hilarity would insue....unfortunately he ran out of time and it took away from her character's development, although it was going to account for her mysterious death....

[2-1B]

"She has lost the will to live (without her silicone breast implants)"

-- Polis Massan alien --

[TheDarthVader]

"You liaaaaar!" (choking padme)---Anakin
"Anaknnn..."---Padme
"Anakin, put her down. She lied about her boobs, get over it."---Obi Wan Kenobi

[pkalan70]

The reasons the prequels suck is that George Lucas sucks.
1) He once said in an interview that his favorite scene was the one of Jabba in his box at the podrace. What?????
Why, because it combined several different special effects filmed at several different times, and he was able to combine them so that nobody would notice. What??
Shouldn't the director's fav scene be the one that, gee I don't know, TELLS THE STORY???
2) Kenny Baker was never in Episode 3, he helped to create one of the most memorable characters in movie history, yet he was denied his rightful role in Episode 3, so he was only in 5 of the 6.
Why you ask? Because rather then film the scenes where he could be inside the droid, Lucas thought it would be better to recreate it digitally. What???
Better?? For who??
There are many more reasons, but I really don't want to get started, my hands would probably develop carpel-tunnel.

[Deoxyribonucleic]

...engaging in roboerotic combat

Wow, and I thought I'd done it all! Chux, 310 555 1234 ;)

Prequels? I've heard this word somewhere...wait, wait, it will come to me...

ohhhh, I lost it *shrugs

[2-1B]

ohhhh, I lost it *shrugs

That's what the robot said to Chux.

[JimJamBonds]

The reasons the prequels suck is that George Lucas sucks.
1) He once said in an interview that his favorite scene was the one of Jabba in his box at the podrace. What?????

There are tons of scenes...... big deal.

Shouldn't the director's fav scene be the one that, gee I don't know, TELLS THE STORY???

Yeah you know that ONE scene where the entire story is told... which one is that again?

[quote]2) Kenny Baker was never in Episode 3,

Nor was Lance Bass and the other N'Syncer's.

There are many more reasons, but I really don't want to get started, my hands would probably develop carpel-tunnel.

I'd probably just stop coming commenting on a SW website if that were me.

[JediTricks]

Getting back to this thread's original theme:

If you STILL like the Prequels, then....
... you should read this thread (http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=28846) to see why nobody agrees with you. ;)

(and if that doesn't fan the flames... :evil: )

[bigbarada]

Just checking in...

Yep, the Prequels still suck. Later.:D

[decadentdave]

Just checking in...

Yep, the Prequels still suck. Later.:D

Prequels bashers are so predictable. They can't expound their vocabulary beyond the word "suck."

[stillakid]

Prequels bashers are so predictable. They can't expound their vocabulary beyond the word "suck."


What's this "they" sh**?

[decadentdave]

What's this "they" sh**?

Oh, I'm sorry... I guess I meant YOU. lol

[stillakid]

Oh, I'm sorry... I guess I meant YOU. lol

Funny. Do a "Search" and let me know that last time I've used the word. Then come back and apologize.

[decadentdave]

Oh, I'm sorry... I guess I meant "INFECT" lol lol lol

[bigbarada]

Prequels bashers are so predictable. They can't expound their vocabulary beyond the word "suck."

It's fun to bash on crappy movies; but it's even more fun to get people who have somehow convinced themselves that they like said crappy movie all riled about by bashing the aforementioned crappy movie.:D

So, thank you! That was just the kind of reaction I was hoping for.:thumbsup: The fact that you take an attack on a movie that you had absolutely no part in developing and somehow turn that into a personal attack, shows a great lack of maturity.

BTW, the Prequels are still a poor example of moviemaking.:p

[decadentdave]

It's fun to bash on crappy movies; but it's even more fun to get people who have somehow convinced themselves that they like said crappy movie all riled about by bashing the aforementioned crappy movie.:D

So, thank you! That was just the kind of reaction I was hoping for.:thumbsup: The fact that you take an attack on a movie that you had absolutely no part in developing and somehow turn that into a personal attack, shows a great lack of maturity.

Tell that to Stilla. I can enjoy good and bad movies for what they are instead of constantly whining about what the are not.

BTW, the Prequels are still a poor example of moviemaking.:p

So is Transformers. lol

[bigbarada]

So is Transformers. lol

Amen, brother!

[Lord Malakite]

There is no need to get your knickers in a twist stilla and decadentdave. To each his own and leave it at that. If you guys can't play nice I'll have to close the thread and have JT change your sith/jedi/bounty hunter group titles to say "#1 SW Prequel Fan" :D

Getting back on topic.

If you STILL like the Prequels, then....
...you just might have puppies with Slicker's Mom. :thumbsup:

[jedi master sal]

Thank you LM for getting the thread back on Topic. No more flaming please by anyone. Posts will be deleted if it continues and they will be retro active. Let's do our best to keep this nice. A little jibe here and there at the prequels is okay but NOT personal attacks.

If you still like the Prequels: You must be an overly dedicated Star Wars fan. Or a Lucasite or is that Leukocyte, I get them mixed up...lol

[Qui-Long Gone]

You keep the spirit of Christmas alive 365 days a year


You also drink too much eggnog....:shocked:

[Tycho]

I like the prequels. Revenge of the Sith is possibly my favorite Star Wars movie. I've seen the OT way too many times because I am a nerd and had no life, and therefore had nothing better to do but watch them way too many times. This is why I get all excited about new Expanded Universe material to read - because I'm bored with the films.

But the prequels are newer, but maybe now they are older too because I don't really feel like watching TPM or AOTC. ROTS could be just new - and that's why I like it - but I haven't watched that in a long time either.

I love the Transformers movie! Michael Bay is a genius :crazed: But seriously, ever since 1984 or so, I wished for the robots I saw in the cartoon show to be made for real so they could kick major butt in a hardcore movie. Last summer, that sort of happened. It was not exactly what I wanted, but enough of my wish was fulfilled that I love it just because I have it.

Even my life as a complete nerd is not really impacted by how cool or not Star Wars or Transformers is or isn't in new cinematic outings. Thus I don't take it so seriously if Yoda wasn't Obi-Wan's full-time Jedi Master and Megatron doesn't turn into a handgun. Somehow I just say, "Let me try to enjoy it for what it is, and then move on." Well, I ended up enjoying it enough that I didn't want to move on, and here I am buying the ARC 170 fighter and the figures that go in it, as well as Ironhide as a black pickup truck instead of a red min-van.

Life goes on and I'm still a nerd even if I'm a flexible one.

[JediTricks]

Two words: Count Dooku. That alone proves Lucas is just making fun of fanboys.

[Tycho]

Um. I'm a fanboy. That's probably why I don't get the joke. Any help here?

[jedi master sal]

yeah, I'm not catching that one either JT...

[JediTricks]

There's no dignity in that name outside the fanboy establishment. It's a silly name nobody takes seriously except you guys. Everybody else snickers at it.

[Tycho]

Oh. Well I'm since I'm a fanboy, how am I supposed to know this? It's not like normal people would talk to me. :crazed:

[decadentdave]

Two words: Count Dooku. That alone proves Lucas is just making fun of fanboys.

I read that one of his kids came up with that name.

[Mr. JabbaJohnL]

It means "poison" in Japanese; I don't think his kids came up with it.

[Tycho]

How old are they again? It might have been a spelling change on Lucas' part from the original suggestion: Count PooPoo.

I would have to admit that it would be harder to take the movie seriously if his dame was Count PooPoo.

[JediTricks]

I thought his son came up with "Gungan"... wow.

[2-1B]

I do know the kids came up with Jim Jam, or Jar Jar, or whatever his name was. lol

[stillakid]

I do know the kids came up with Jim Jam, or Jar Jar, or whatever his name was. lol

I think they wrote the scripts too.

[2-1B]

They had scripts for those movies ? :confused:

[Devo]

They had scripts for those movies ? :confused:

Yep, added in post production with some nifty CGI magic.

[Tycho]

BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!

[JediTricks]

I do know the kids came up with Jim Jam, or Jar Jar, or whatever his name was. lolNo, that's a misunderstanding on the fanbase's part, Lucas said his son came up with the character's name, everybody assumed he meant the name "Jar Jar Binks", but in fact he meant the name of the race.

[2-1B]

Fair enough, but then who the f*** else would be juvenile enough to come up with the name Jar Jar ?

lol lol lol

[JediTricks]

George Walton Lucas Jr., age 50-ish.