Original vintage characters that have not yet been made for the "modern" lines

[Kithaba]

I've looked for a recently-updated thread like this without success.

Here's my list - I'd welcome any additions/corrections:

1) Human B-wing Pilot (red jumpsuit)
2) Sim Aloo (Imperial Dignitary)
3) Wooof (Klaatu, palace outfit)
4) Beytmun (vintage Nikto)
5) Lumat (it'd be good to have the grey ewok the vintage was based on as well as the stripey woodcutter ewok now considered to be Lumat)
6) Warok

and if I'm being really picky:

7) Black Bespin Security Guard
8) Power Droid (the one with "step" patterns on the side - can be seen in ANH walking around in the Lars homestead as Luke calls down to Beru from above)
9) Kithaba (because Kenner's POTF attempt could be viewed just as much as aiming for Kithaba as Barada because of the paint job, ignoring the sculpted backpack. And because he's cool and they should make him anyway.)
10) Sergeant Torent (the grey-uniformed "Star Destroyer Commander" which the vintage figure was presumably based on - pic below)

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[Kithaba]

Not sure about the original (Hoth) Rebel Soldier with the brown vest. I don't know enough about the differences between the different uniforms. Can anyone shed any light on this?

[AmanaMatt]

This is a really cool list - I would want to see every last one of these.....especially all of the Skiff Aliens/Jabba related aliens

[Tycho]

I think this list is about perfect with Kithaba's "really picky additions," and the Hoth Rebel he also discussed.

If you have that old Steve Sansweet Action Figure Archive book, it's out of date since 1998, but an excellent source for pics of the Vintage 80's stuff.

I just turned the pages when I made one of these lists several years ago.

[Kithaba]

Just been looking at carded BSG's, and had forgotten that the white BSG was also modelled after someone specific:

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So if you remade the black BSG...

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...then you'd sorta have to do both, which I suppose is kinda silly and a bit too picky, given that we have human BSGs in the new line already.

I'm starting to think that I'd be more interested in seeing Utris M'Toc (the alien BSG) than either of the vintage humans.

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He's kinda cool in a really Star Trek way.

[Kithaba]

Ok, I've done a bit of research on Hoth outfits.

First of all we have Major Derlin...

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...who we have in the modern line, but did not have in the vintage line. The vintage Rebel Commander had his moustache, but his uniform was sculpted after the guy on his card, who looks to be a bog standard white-uniformed soldier with a headscarf:

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So the vintage Rebel Commander was in a soldier's uniform, which is typified by this:

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This was the uniform Hasbro gave us for POTF2, albeit sculpted on a bearded guy:

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Then they must have realised that there should have been white at the elbows, so they changed the colours for the deluxe version:

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More to come in a sec...

[Kithaba]

So the POTF2 Hoth Rebel Soldier is pretty much the same deal as the vintage Rebel Commander. The important bit is the white, untextured protective overvest with the emblem thing on one side and the gun strap stabilizer on the other. Here are some more examples:

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Looking at the card for the vintage Rebel Soldier, it seems like he's been modelled after a guy wearing the same uniform as the above, with that white overvest with the lines going down the shoulder:

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More to come...

[Mr. JabbaJohnL]

My list adds the Death Star Droid, Rebel Soldier, and TIE Fighter Pilot.

Star Wars
*Death Squad Commander (gray suit) - this could just be a repaint of the current Death Star Trooper.
*Death Star Droid (silver) - I'm not even sure if there was a silver one in the films, and we already have a shiny black and dull bronze version of this droid, but a silver one would be cool as well.
*Power Droid - as you said, the vintage one hasn't technically been redone.

The Empire Strikes Back
*Rebel Soldier - we don't have a generic guy in Major Derlin/General McQuarrie's costume, but as we have those, I'm not sure we need a random dude.
*Bespin Security Guard (moustache) - the body of the 2000 figure can be improved upon (particularly the open jacket).
*Bespin Secutiry Guard (black) - running change to the moustache guy.
*TIE Fighter Pilot (ANH style) - Hasbro overlooks the fact that the ANH pilots have tubes coming from the sides of their chest box things, and the modern figures don't have these and are thus from ROTJ.

Return of the Jedi
*Klaatu (Jabba's Palace outfit) - Wooof, I guess.
*Nikto (blue outfit) - is his name Beytmun? I can't find that online.
*B-wing Pilot (human in red)
*Lumat (1983 version)

Power of the Force
*Barada (red headband and yellow shirt) - actually Kithaba.
*Warok
*Imperial Dignitary (Sim Aloo)

[Kithaba]

Then we have Luke's uniform, which seems different, but I think it might be the same uniform but without the white overvest thing. Or more likely it's just that they have a different vest altogether, because they're using a small blaster instead of a rifle (see Luke's holster), which means they have no need for a rifle holder on their vests.

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This beige, quilted "bodywarmer" with the thick, padded collar, is the same uniform as a lot of the other guys are wearing, and I think its colour might have been used as a model for the vintage Rebel Soldier's brown vest. Kenner might not have realised that a lot of the soldiers are wearing the same thing as Luke. Some more examples:

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The wearing of the white overvest doesn't seem to have anything to do with rank. There are officers of all types wearing both different types of uniform.

A little bit more to come when I can find it...

[Kithaba]

Hasbro gave us a random soldier in Luke's uniform in one of the accessory sets:

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Yeah, it could do with using one of the Luke Hoth resculpts and maybe a different head, BUT, the vintage Rebel Soldier is wearing a vest with that gun strap stabilizer thing on his chest to the left as we look at it:

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So I reckon that regardless of the colour, the vintage Rebel Soldier was sculpted after the bog standard soldier with the white vest, which we already have a few modern versions of. I can't find any examples of brown overvests with the gun stablizer thing plus emblem.

Whichever way you look at it, and whether or not you like the Hasbro figure, we can't really say we haven't been given a new version of the original vintage Rebel Soldier, because we have a random guy in each of the 2 types of uniform. So "Rebel Soldier (Hoth)" is definitely off my list of wants, except that a resculpt of the Saga one in Luke's outfit would be good :grin:

[Kithaba]

Re: silver Death Star Droid - a lot of people reckon that the one in the jawas' sandcrawler in ANH was silver. I'm not so sure looking at the pic here http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/RA-7

Hasbro gave us "RA-7" as a pack-in for the OTC sandcrawler, so at least they tried. I'm going to follow everyone else's example and make a custom one using nail varnish remover...

[Kithaba]

Good call with the ANH Tie Fighter Pilot.

So here's my new personal list:

1) Human B-wing Pilot
2) Sim Aloo
3) Wooof
4) Beytmun
5) Lumat
6) Warok
7) Lars Homestead Power Droid
8) Kithaba
9) Sergeant Torent
10) ANH Tie Fighter Pilot

+ possibly...

11) BSG black
12) BSG white

...if I was feeling nitpicky about actual characters represented by the sculpt rather than outfit only.

I've omitted the Rebel Soldier for the reasons given above, and also the silver Death Star Droid. I had another look at that, and the OTC one isn't as bad as I first thought (I've seen a lot worse from Hasbro). I just think the tarnished effect was a bit oversprayed. The eye colour is maybe an attempt to simulate the reflection from the inside of the sandcrawler.

[Kithaba]

The info given here http://blogs.starwars.com/teekay-421/79 conflicts with some of what I've given w.r.t. which actors the figures were based on. Hmmm...

[Tycho]

I like Utriss M'Toc (spelling) myself for a Bespin Guard, as well as want the black guy. The white guy with a mustache would be fine, but after these first two.

I polled for all these in the scene-by-scene deal I did in 2005, but Treva Horme, a cut-scene Cloud City Alien won from the Bespin (non-main-character) bunch. Incidentally, Lando in Smugglers attire won the main-character group and we're getting him in a few months now! Yaaay.

But Cloud City is really a location I want to see added to.

Getting all these figures re-made in the modern line is very important to me - so I thank you for the expose on the Hoth Rebel Soldier (nice job with the pics). Yeah, it's about time for that one. I'd hoped that the 2004 figure (that too short trench grunt) guy would be the figure we needed (before I saw pre-release pictures) and then was set to be disappointed when it finally came out. I bought one "shorty."

[Tycho]

I just did a recount. I got 9:

1) Hoth Rebel Soldier
2) Imperial Commander (black tunic)
3) Black Bespin Security Guard
4) Klaatu (Woof)
5) Human B-wing Pilot
6) Lumat (Ewok)
7) Paploo (good resculpt)
8) Imperial Dignitary (Slim Aloo)
9) Warok (Ewok)

I'm not too picky on some of the other uniform variants of Imperials or Skiff Guards.

[General_Grievous]

Of the remaining figures, I think the only ones that Hasbro would produce would be:

Death Squad Commander (as a repainted Death Star Trooper)
Klaatu (Jabba's Palace)
Lumat
Barada (Kithaba)-Hasbro may overlook him, but I'd like to see him. He's got a cooler outfit than Barada.
Warok
Imperial Dignitary (Sim Aloo)-Out of all the Vintage figures not yet remade, I'm surprised this one is still on the list after all these years.

They may actually do more Bespin guards to flesh out the ESB waves. They seem to be running low on characters from the film.